Curse

Symbol · Jul 29, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

You know from looking at the skill list and the damage numbers it seems that Paragons have the potential of being a monstrous ranged damage dealer. Skills with short recharges and high +damage + bow class damage on a 1.5 sec recycle? Support class my ass!

Greedy Gus · Jul 29, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

Just from swinging a few times at the target dummies, I'm pretty sure it hits enemies adjacent to the dervish, even if they're behind her and not adjacent to the target.

Swing a few more times. It's abundantly clear that that's wrong.

TheOneMephisto · Jul 29, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Well, according to guildwiki it hits a max of 3 people. From personal experience, it hits in a arc in front of you, but tahts just me.

Mackattack · Jul 29, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Spearmen were already running R/P spike last night ;D

I came up with that idea.

Lord Dark Genie · Jul 29, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

A few questions :

What's the bow-equivalent arc of spears ? (longbow, flatbow, ...)
Does FW affect spears ?

Spears seem pretty easy to dodge..

JR · Jul 29, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by Mackattack

I came up with that idea.

You came up with the R/P premade?

I think not.

Mackattack · Jul 29, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

No, i came up with the idea to run a R/P spike in Ha.

Greedy Gus · Jul 29, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by Mackattack

No, i came up with the idea to run a R/P spike in Ha.

The next person to say that R/P spear attack spammers are 'spikers' gets pistol-whipped.

Mackattack · Jul 29, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Call it what you like... 'spammers' will do.

JR · Jul 29, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by Mackattack

No, i came up with the idea to run a R/P spike in Ha.

Pretty sure anyone with any common sense at all who tried out that premade had the same idea... Please don't try to make blatantly ludicrous claims.

Mackattack · Jul 29, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

ok i thought of the idea to play that build in Heroes Ascent, I was the first person to put together a group as far as i could tell, I may not have been the very first but who cares?

JR · Jul 29, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

On a different note:

fb2000 · Jul 29, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by JR-

On a different note:

amen to that..

i aint playing pvp till this weekends over

Wasteland Squidget · Jul 29, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

What are those D/Mos running? I don't think I've seen that build before.

NatalieD · Jul 29, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

Swing a few more times. It's abundantly clear that that's wrong.

Well, partly wrong. It does require adjacentness to target, but it can definitely hit enemies behind the dervish.

Warskull · Jul 30, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by Wasteland Squidget

What are those D/Mos running? I don't think I've seen that build before.

We are running

16 Myst
13 Wind
3 Prot

Balth Rage
Grenth's Fingers
Heart of Holy Flame
RoF
Faithful Intervention
CoP
Avatar of Balthazar
Rez Sig

Red Locust · Jul 30, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Honestly, I'm having a hard time understanding how this was considered balanced. Powerful, spammable PBAoE skills and a PBAoE cripple to go with that, a 25% speed +40armor buff, crazy e-management in the form of mysticism, and powerful hex+condition removal as a result of all those powerful enchants and their interaction with CoP.

If this isn't broken in PvP (and the millions of D/Mo's in HA + The Spearmen's jump from rank ~200 to rank 16 shows otherwise), it'll definitely roll every single mob and their dog in PvE.

Greedy Gus · Jul 30, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

Well, partly wrong. It does require adjacentness to target, but it can definitely hit enemies behind the dervish.

Yup that part of my statement was unclear. So to clear up:

Scythe attacks hit anyone 'adjacent' to both you and your direct target.

As far as the dervish builds, mysticism in general is going to have to see some serious tweaks IMO.

cookiemonkie · Jul 30, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

Actually its even worse than that... 33% speed boost not 25. At 16 mysticism, thats about 64 seconds of Avatar form.

At 16 mysticicm you gain 48Health and 8 energy for each enchantment lost. I guess ANET thinks the counter to this is a skill called Chilbans.....

Let me see, a horribly overpowered defensive class is introduced to the game which turns battles into long drags (Binding Ritualist). Instead of fixing the real problem with that class, we are introduced to a class that is supposed to overpower that.... problem is by doing so, such a class will overpower everything else.

Hmm, so solution to the crappy Ritualist dragging matches on forever is to buy Nightfall and use a Dervish.

Warskull · Jul 30, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiemonkie

Actually its even worse than that... 33% speed boost not 25. At 16 mysticism, thats about 64 seconds of Avatar form.

At 16 mysticicm you gain 48Health and 8 energy for each enchantment lost. I guess ANET thinks the counter to this is a skill called Chilbans.....

Let me see, a horribly overpowered defensive class is introduced to the game which turns battles into long drags (Binding Ritualist). Instead of fixing the real problem with that class, we are introduced to a class that is supposed to overpower that.... problem is by doing so, such a class will overpower everything else.

Hmm, so solution to the crappy Ritualist dragging matches on forever is to buy Nightfall and use a Dervish.

Chilblians helps them, they LOVE losing enchantments. It is their energy management.