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Old Sep 01, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12   #1
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Use Gale and Blackout on monks or interupters on the spike. Distracting Shot Choking if you can or Gale him on the spike.

It's roughly 690 damage on the spike without follow-up.

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Old Sep 01, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20   #2
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You asshole! You stole my build! Well, it was out of my mind, but nonetheless, cut it out.

I think the lack of dependence on spirits makes it stronger than blood spike, and theoretically, it should hold very well. I would just suggest two gales instead of just one. I really want to know how this works out.
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Old Sep 01, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #3
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!!!! vin you leaked next seasons gvg build!
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Old Sep 01, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20   #4
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Hexes anyone?
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Old Sep 02, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #5
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I'd recommend at least one blinding flash for Seeking arrows interrupters in halls.

And as Yanman.be said, you'll need hex removal, a couple of copies of Veil should be enough.
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Old Sep 03, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13   #6
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Hexes anyone?
I really hate posts like this. All it does is state that you think the build is weak against something without showing why or saying how to remedy it. What hexes am I really worried about? Migraine and Arcane Conundrum are the only things that come to mind.
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Migraine and Arcane Conundrum are the only things that come to mind.
Against Migraine, all you have to do is to count down from 6 *jk*
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Old Sep 03, 2006, 11:46 AM // 11:46   #8
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Looks pretty good.

It seems like it'd have trouble against the Crip Shot + melandru's condition builds that are quite popular. You mentioned blackout to deal with interrupters, but it's not that easy if he gets crip-shotted.
Degen forces you into heal party mode etc... Although you could just run a second copy of extinguish to deal with the degen part.

IIRC you can't gale and spike the same target without fast casting, that makes dodging orbs possible (although I'm sure most people wouldn't even try)

I'd try to replace the gale/prot ele with a warder. Something like :

- Glyph of Energy
- Obsidian Flame
- Gale
- Aegis
- Ward against Melee
- Ward against Foes
- Ward of Stability
- Resurrection Signet

You lose guardian and spirit bond, do less damage vs 60AL, but you get some utility for relics, KD protection for capping and some melee defense stacking with Aegis.
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Old Sep 03, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33   #9
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Won't work in 6vs6, there's too much NR/TQ. I guess you could just kill the spirits, but it isn't always that easy.

The metagame for the 6vs6 is condition-based degen with ranger interrupts, I'd say good luck spiking.

If you do attempt it, bring 2x Extinguish.
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Old Sep 03, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #10
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ide say you definetly need some blinding flashes, since ^ build mentioned above has ~5-6 interrupts on it, and thatll be enough to kill you spikes, so you def need some blinds.
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Old Sep 03, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #11
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ide say you definetly need some blinding flashes, since ^ build mentioned above has ~5-6 interrupts on it, and thatll be enough to kill you spikes, so you def need some blinds.
true you do need blinds so you do not get interupted and with that blind it will be very rare for even a hit.
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