Curse

Thom Bangalter · Sep 03, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

read what i said again. You cant adrenaline spike a choking ranger for exactly the reasons you listed.

You should learn to play the game and not used overpowred builds that require no skill to run. I rest well knowing I'm smarter and better than you anywhere in the world.

No, a build is overpowered when there are 7 pages of posts complaining about how powerful it is.

To Quote Johnny Storm, "FLAME ON!"

not extremely overpowered. learn to pressure him, he can't cg when he's kiting.

But "oh noes whirling defense!" shock him when he tries to cast cg.

"But there's no shock warrior, I'm playing Blood Spike"

Play blood spike less.

shardfenix · Sep 03, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

Play blood spike less.

A counter to choking gas rangers is finding a counter. (Logical Fallacy, petitio principii)
Use idiot logic less.

...sure why not. Make JR close threads for edrama less.

EaT Macros · Sep 03, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

You should learn to play the game and not used overpowred builds that require no skill to run. I rest well knowing I'm smarter and better than you anywhere in the world.

No, a build is overpowered when there are 7 pages of posts complaining about how powerful it is.

I don't know how you get to the overpowered builds part, ever watched us on obs mode? We don't run CG rangers if that is what you mean...

Oh and it's 8 pages now, but there's 1 thing you forget, not every1 is complaining. We can reduce that 8 to 1 page with posts of you.

yesitsrob · Sep 03, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

To Quote Johnny Storm, "FLAME ON!"

not extremely overpowered. learn to pressure him, he can't cg when he's kiting.

But "oh noes whirling defense!" shock him when he tries to cast cg.

"But there's no shock warrior, I'm playing Blood Spike"

Play blood spike less.

i approve of this post.

Lord Mendes · Sep 03, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

To answer the OP:
Are choking gas rangers forcing a change in the metagame?
Choking gas is the metagame.(or were b4 all the hex/degen build, been wanting to say that for ages

). It's like when you had balanced with 2 surgers.
Seriously ive seen more pug balanced with choking gas rangers than ive seen bloodspikes and IWAYs.
I guess shard is getting annoyed because his interuptless bloodspikes cannot interupt a 2 second cast.

good seeking arrows interupter > choking gas ranger.

dbgtboy · Sep 03, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

No, a build is overpowered when there are 7 pages of posts complaining about how powerful it is.

uhh its actually 8 pages of 1 person complaining and people telling him counters and why it is not overpowered, but his head is too thick and hes not understanding.

shardfenix · Sep 04, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by dbgtboy

uhh its actually 8 pages of 1 person complaining and people telling him counters and why it is not overpowered, but his head is too thick and hes not understanding.

If you want to get technical, it's 8 pages of 1 person trying to convince roughly 20 morons why a complete shutdown build might be broken. Choking gas aside, ghostly interrupting has become a joke. I've seen teams win or prevent winning because they can interrupt a ghost for 5 minutes, and killing the ranger is the only counter. Yes blind works, but it's not a counter because every team with a CG ranger has a prot monk or extinguish spammer. When the only counter for a build is to kill it, it's broken.

So, are CG rangers forcing a change in the metagame? Every balance team I've fought against in 8v8 has at least one, most of them have 2. And no I don't play blood spike 100% of the time, in fact I haven't played 8v8 blood spike for some time, but this thread isn't about me. The typical balance team has 2 melees, 2 monks, 1 support, and the rest offensive. The choking gas rangers can shot down either the monks, the support, or the spelluser offensive characters (eles, mesmers, necros). I've played choking gas before, and couldn't believe how good it is.
2 skills shutting down 8 skills = broken. If you don't understand this kindergarten math, why are you playing this game.?

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Sep 04, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Omg Guys Shard Is Right!! Only Counter To Build Is To Kill It=broken! Thus Ghostly Hero Is Broken When He Caps Altar! Nerf Nerf Nerffff!!!! Now Omfg

EDIT: sorry for every word capitalized, apparently caps lock doesn't work in quick reply

dgb · Sep 04, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

Choking gas aside, ghostly interrupting has become a joke. I've seen teams win or prevent winning because they can interrupt a ghost for 5 minutes, and killing the ranger is the only counter.

On a four minute map? Yep, it's broken. It allows you to play for longer than the allocated time. :/

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

Yes blind works, but it's not a counter because every team with a CG ranger has a prot monk or extinguish spammer.

Because extinguish is oh so spammable with that two second recharge... wait a moment.

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

When the only counter for a build is to kill it, it's broken.

Knockdowns, interupts on the prep, blinds, hexes. The only thing there isn't a counter to is your whining.

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

So, are CG rangers forcing a change in the metagame? Every balance team I've fought against in 8v8 has at least one, most of them have 2.

So they're a strong, plug in style character. So are shock axes, word of heal monks and spirit spammers. Who really cares?

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

2 skills shutting down 8 skills = broken.

Zomg Power Block + Blackout ohnoes my skillz!

Thom Bangalter · Sep 04, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

If you want to get technical, it's 8 pages of 1 person trying to convince roughly 20 morons why a complete shutdown build might be broken. Choking gas aside, ghostly interrupting has become a joke. I've seen teams win or prevent winning because they can interrupt a ghost for 5 minutes, and killing the ranger is the only counter. Yes blind works, but it's not a counter because every team with a CG ranger has a prot monk or extinguish spammer. When the only counter for a build is to kill it, it's broken.

interrupting the ghost for 5 minutes isn't a cg problem, it's a seeking problem.

ADDITIONALLY...the only way to counter a monk is to kill it! zomgzorz nerf monks!

EaT Macros · Sep 04, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

ADDITIONALLY...the only way to counter a monk is to kill it! zomgzorz nerf monks!

You can also interupt a monk to counter it!!!! Oh wait, you can do the same with CG...maybe bloodspike should adapt to CG instead of nerfing CG so bloodspike can go on.

Thom Bangalter · Sep 04, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by EaT Macros

You can also interupt a monk to counter it!!!! Oh wait, you can do the same with CG...maybe bloodspike should adapt to CG instead of nerfing CG so bloodspike can go on.

pssh. change blood spike to account for other people throwing a monkey wrench at your build? screw that, let's just scream for a nerf.

JR · Sep 04, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

I think this thread has pretty much reached the end of it's life.