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Ars Robbie · Oct 22, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40

I am quite new to the game, but could you not use a 6 man team all with obsidian flame and use glyph of energy and maybe arcane echo?

Thomas.knbk · Oct 22, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

no...

Ars Robbie · Oct 22, 2006, 11:46 AM // 11:46

Can you please tell me why not then?

Jupiter Exsurgo · Oct 22, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

Well im not exactly a guild wars genius by a long shot, but you do realise that obsidian flame cause exhaustion, therefore one or two obsidian with echos would leave you with little or no energy and your damage has gone leaving you with just your hands to tickle the nuts of the enemy. i think......

Celeborn · Oct 22, 2006, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ars Robbie

I am quite new to the game, but could you not use a 6 man team all with obsidian flame and use glyph of energy and maybe arcane echo?

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Jupiter Exsurgo · Oct 22, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

Yes for sure but glyph for energy takes 15 secs recharge, leaving you with 10 secs either to spike causing exhaustion or to wait for the recharge, i dont think this is an effective way of spiking as all 6 chars prob wont get their glyph recharged at the exact same time.

Plus You can use arcane echo with the glyph first time but prob not after that as youll have the echo spell for 20s then 30s recharge. The first one or two spikes might be ok but i just cant c it been effective at any length of time.

I guess you would need a full build to see if this would work.

ap47 · Oct 22, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Glyphs are not "spells" as far as i know, so you can't Arcane Echo them.

Jupiter Exsurgo · Oct 22, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

If thats correct, then this build would be usless, no point using arcane echo on obsidian as would cost to much energy and give to much exhaustion.

Cador · Oct 22, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

I can see it working, The big problem is healing however, If you were to go Ele/Mesmer I would go with Mantra of Resolve, Glyph of Energy, Obs flame, every other spike u should be able to use glyph. I still think that due to the lack of healing this build has it will be fairly inneffective in a 6v6 format.

Thomas.knbk · Oct 22, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Ars Robbie

Can you please tell me why not then?

Because that would mean you have 6 E/Me's, which is a good spike, but has no room for defense or utility

ZenRgy · Oct 22, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

There is an earth spike build like this - but works alot better in 8v8, used in GvG sometimes.

Divinus Stella · Oct 23, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22

well you could use glyph of concentration, but you would be far better off with a ranbow spike, you can get more utility in.

Why_Me · Oct 23, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Theres always wards, and since they are earth based, each elementalist/mesmer could fit 2-3 in his bar, pretty decent utility, however then you are stuck with 1 monk to manage the healing. Or you could just go secondary monk and bring heals, however then you are vulnrable to interrupts. Its a good idea and all, but I just don't see it working in 6v6. However in 8v8 this would probably work great.

Nagasli Xelza · Nov 03, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

It won't really work in 6 v 6. You would definitely need a monk and that would mean 5 spikers and basically all enemies will have more than 500 hp

Sertu · Nov 03, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

the big problem would be ele's die really fast, no interupt, no healing, exaustion
I cant see how that would work.

U might pull of one spike, then ur exausted, ull need 2 wait a while while ur skills recharge, and in that time ull be slaughterd.

Cracko · Nov 03, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

One spike and exhausted? you actually have no idea what you are talking about, Obsidian Flame only causes 5 Energy Exhaustion, technically you can pull off 16 spikes (Without casting non-exhausting skills), with 80 Energy.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 03, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

It doesn't work because you have no healing. You have plenty of room for utility and support, but those lack of monks kill the build.

Wtf?Omfg!Bbq! · Nov 03, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

I have seen Mo/e's using Obsidian Flame in Ha.... (Back in those good, old 8v8 days)