Curse

Nurse With Wound · Nov 11, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by jull

I talked with all of my friends, guildies, friends list, alliance, etc...We are most PvP players and we all agree 6v6 Ha is getting so stupid and boring those days that if it continues we are all going to leave Gw for something else. I will talk for French community.

Reasons why Ha is getting worse and worse those time:

1: 6v6: Less players mean only one thing: less skills you can bring with you so: less variety of builds. Where is the time we where thinking about iway, vim, necrospike, bomb, rangerspike, balanced, mass denials, mass hex degen, double migraine, triplesmite, air spike, hex spike, heavy interrupts, weird things coming from imaginations, and so much more.. Now you go in Ha and have 30% chance to deal with 3 or 4 fire el and 50% with 2g 2paragons....builds variety is so poor that my wall should be more interesting...

2: Paragons problems: EVERY professions has counters into gw, Anet didn't think about any elite or real spell that can get their job hard? Even mesmers, that is used to get everyone’s job a real pain have absolutely no skill dealing with it? I mean Warriors, assa, dervich can be blinded, have problems with wards, aegis, hexes and so much things, casters can be dazed, interrupted. Monks have constant pressure, denials, interrupts, hexes…Paragons are like birds flying into battlefield.

Spell list to counter Paragons:

_Roaring winds: without oath you can’t use it and even up paragons don’t really care.
_Well of silence: need a corpse and…. Just stay out of it…completely useless
_Vocal minority: like every hex, need to be highly recovered otherwise useless.

3: Nf release: Ok paragons and dervish are fun even if they sound overpowered sometimes but did Anet forgot to give interesting stuff to other professions ? Mesmers, assassins, warriors, don’t have anything new and interesting, some skills are so funny that no one will ever tried them.

4: Heroes: Ha is supposed to be PvP, am I wrong or PvP means PLAYERS vs PLAYERS? So Anet can you explain me why 40% of the time I play against computers?

_How A none rank alone can just bring 4 fire el and beat r7+ players? Is Ha supposed to be a very hard place that needs a lot of time and experience to go to hall? We see heroes way at hall those days…
_Bots/Macros become to appears in Ha, we had quiet a balanced build and spent 45 minutes on a match with a guy alone spamming all his spell at the same orders, same frequency that didn’t answer in local chat neither in pm. So guys just put a macro, get heroes with them with a very defensive build (2m, 2p) and let computer turn when they sleep and work. Please Anet be really aware of that.
_It was supposed to be a solution for new players that had problems to find groups..They won’t learn how to play using heroes. Best way is to go with real groups, using ts or vent and let leaders, high rank pple show you what to do, when, how, and learn from them.

So, for all those reasons, I’m getting bored with Ha that was so fun before.We are all very sad when we think about how fun it was and what it become now. As I said if it continues me and my friends gonna leave to anything else and I heard about many players that become to leave gw community….

Quoting this for anet representatives whop are busy with dye problem, and might miss it. Best goddamn post in a long time. GG good sir.

Its yet another warning about possible botting problem. Thats what all those changes done to the heroes ascend. And we all know that botting in Guild Wars IS a problem. Im fairly certain that those sightings of bot teams are 100% true, more, they will become more often day by day. In 6v6 when 5 of your teammates might be AI controlled, theres nothing making botting impossible. Good macro, and you win fame while you're sleeping in your bed!

hyro yamaguchi · Nov 11, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

WTB searing flames macro, 10k

BoredJoe · Nov 13, 2006, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Beefing up the ghosts at the start of HA might be a good idea. I tried heroway and easily got pass them with lvl 11 and a lvl 12 hero monks and henchies, with not much of a build on my main, just a running build on my ranger.

I tried once with a lvl 4 dervish and level 3 Koss and henchies but they got pawned by the ghosts. If I'm bored I might see if I can get them past somehow. So this is the NightFall elite mission

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YesNo · Nov 14, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

There is an arena for Heros, take them out of HA and put the Player back in Player vs Player.

Yunas Ele · Nov 14, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

This is a waste of a good topic space. Im tired of hearing you all complain about heroway.

This post is a waste of good topic space. Im tired of people posting without actually reading the topic.

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

I mean its not like ur bad if u use it. Its just easier for you to get what u want for what build u runnin this way.

No, you're not bad. But you're not playing HA how it was intended to be played. Thats why I think max 3 hero or hench per team. See my topic in the suggestions forum for more info.

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

It's not my fault if u cant beat hroway go cry to mommy about how ur a failure. As for me im moving ahead in life.

Wow, I'm ****ing sick of repeating this but here it goes. Its not that we can't beat heroways, its that we don't have fun beating them. I'm moving on in life too because I don't play this crappy AI bot farming crap anymore too so....

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

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Oh boy, you went 3 whole consec with heroway.What does that prove? You won 3 matches against other heroways or uncoordinated nub pugs? Man, you are 1337. I'd post my 12 consec run with heroway to make you look bad but I'm not gonna bother? Why? Because it means jack **** (just like your screenshot). I beat 12 heroways, you beat 3. Wasn't difficult for either of us. And it certainly wasn't fun for me...

Bacon Goes Monk · Nov 14, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

Wow, I'm ****ing sick of repeating this but here it goes. Its not that we can't beat heroways, its that we don't have fun beating them. I'm moving on in life too because I don't play this crappy AI bot farming crap anymore too so....

I don't think there's any point to repeating this anymore. Remember, the heroway scrubs are the 13 year olds who haven't mastered their reading skills yet.

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Originally Posted by BoredJoe

So this is the NightFall elite mission

GG Anet just got pwnt.

To Brother Blood or however many o's you thought was cool...

Oh noes you won halls with heroes! It's teh end of ze world!!11oneoneoneuno. Considering you won while the Japanese were online, and you got a whole 3 fame, it must have been dead hour. GG you won when no one decent plays.

I've always wanted to use this, and finally I can. Here you go:

go play with ur bots more k ty bye nub

Nurse With Wound · Nov 14, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

I dont care about reading this cuz im not gonna read 25 pages or w/e so i know what im posting about..........

What the hell dude? Your post was totally offtopic, unnecessary pile of bullshit.

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

That was also my first win....... I am a succesful user of heroes. I come up with my own builds im not using searing flames or anything.......

You're the guild wars master. I salute you, "sucessful user of heroes"

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

Also Bacon if u think ur so good lets see some pictures of u doin somethin cool in pvp.

"some pictures of u doin somethin cool in pvp"

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

tomcruisejr · Nov 14, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

ill make this my desktop picture.

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Ya because if u said urself its basicly easy to role over heroway and i role over teams who are and arnt heroway get my point? I dont know who you are and why ur treatin me like sh1t but wtf man i didnt do anything to you and ur just acting stupid. I want to gvg. As people know there is rank elitism. Heroway is a cheap easy way for me to get what i want faster. Heroway is not a bad thing ur all complaining way to much about it. It seems like ur ruining ur own experience of ha by actually thinking about it. If ha is no longer fun to peopl because of heroway then why do you do it?

EDIT - btw dont get into i win ha all the time and sh1t because ive seen ur guild win and i dont really care. Btw seriously answer that last question in something that doesnt have to do with rank or faction. Also i did delete my posts.

Yunas Ele · Nov 14, 2006, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

Hey man look. Im frickin tired of seeing this god dam topic every time i come on to heroes ascent forum.

Then don't read it? Many of us don't like the additions of heroes to HA and we're gonna complain about it here. If you want to argue against us, at least bring some valid points with ya...

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

You might not think 3 consecutive wins is much but to r4's in a heroway beating holding builds is a pretty good feeling.

If you think going 3 consec in this PvE bot farming crap is a good feeling, you'd have an orgasm winning hoh back in the days. Because it was wayy more fun, wayy more intense and wayyyyyyyyy more fun.

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

I dont care about reading this cuz im not gonna read 25 pages or w/e so i know what im posting about.

Uh, if you haven't read it, how do you know what your posting about?

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

This is a waste of space go post it in sardelac or something this is more of a complaint then it is anything about actual ha.

Uh this topic has a lot of relation to HA, but you haven't read the topic so you wouldn't know...

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

I have to tell you its fun to beat heroway imo.

Theres nothing wrong with liking to kill AI bots. Thats what the PvE side of the game is focused on. You have a whole 3 continents dedicated to PvE, do you really need to come PvE in HA too?

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

But i actually have a life and im not r9 uber tiger pwning emote who is bored of ha but seems to still do it.

Rank is meaningless. Stop jumping to conclusions about other peoples lives. You don't know me, so how would you know. It doesn't take long to get r9 if you actually win a lot (going on 250+ fame runs adds up. its wayyy faster than farming first 3 consec runs with ur heroes). And no I don't HA anymore. Read my post, I said I don't HA anymore...

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

Theres nothing wrong with liking to kill AI bots. Thats what the PvE side of the game is focused on. You have a whole 3 continents dedicated to PvE, do you really need to come PvE in HA too?

RANK... ELITISM...

Nurse With Wound · Nov 14, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

RANK... ELITISM...

tomcruisejr · Nov 14, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

give the guy a break. we all had our share of getting fast/easy/lame fame.

good for him that he's getting fame from heroway. will he ever get his fame easily by spamming "rank 0 pver wanting to play HA", "Hi i'm rank 0 and i wanna give you 15k gold just add me on your friendslist and get me to rank 1", "Calling all rank 0's to form a group and lets get slaughtered by some Real teams playing SF ele Spike"?

if you think that HA is becoming PvE, who cares? it's either you play or you not (and whine in forums of course).

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Ya well it is this shit again. Everyone knows about it and u urself are no stranger to it i bet. See if i could get into a r12 group id probably be able to get fame and stuff. But it doesnt happen. Why? Because even though u might say ur good u dont have anything to prove you are.

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

If ha is no longer fun to peopl because of heroway then why do they do it...Btw seriously answer that last question in something that doesnt have to do with rank or faction.

Seriously there is no way to answer this unless even though u say its not cool with bots it somehow is. Btw im r4 but i hate pugs and my guild aint that hot. Yes i know im quoting myself.

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Its not single luck and if i said what im thinking ud probably laugh all im saying is its pointless to argue about heroway its not a bad thing and anet is not gonna do anything about it

EDIT - BTW no one has answered my question yet. Also ur laughing over my ideas and i bet if i was on par with ur level u would take it diifferently theres even elitism in forums whoda thunk it.

Nurse With Wound · Nov 14, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

Its not single luck and if i said what im thinking ud probably laugh all im saying is its pointless to argue about heroway its not a bad thing and anet is not gonna do anything about it

EDIT - BTW no one has answered my question yet. Also ur laughing over my ideas and i bet if i was on par with ur level u would take it diifferently theres even elitism in forums whoda thunk it.

Ok, since the effort of reading the whole discussion is too muchof a chore for you, I'll recap in few short words why me, and lots of other pvp players are against heroes in HA.

No one is complaining ( at least no one serious in pvp scene ) that heroes are too much of a challenge, because they simply arent. Negative voices concerning heroes touch totally different aspect. Right now, around 80% of HA population are AI BOTS. Have in mind that we're talking about pvp arena here. Right now, in PLAYER VS PLAYER mode, actual PLAYERS are MINORITY. We play the game for team effort. Player vs Player, Team vs Team, team of friends vs another team of friends. Not bored team vs one anti-social looser and his bunch of BOTS. HA is supposed to promote high-level, highly competetive PVP. HA is NOT about FIGHITING AGAINST BOTS. I want to face other people, not dumb AI. When I want to fight with AI, i play PVE. Understood?

If you want to read more about it, from me, or other pvp players, feel free to read all the threads about this problem.

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 14, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Yes i have been doing reading inbetween these posts. Over reacting. still it just must be my bad luck that i face human teams alot. I mean today i faced a team with a bunch of high level guilds. (And i mean like 1-10 WM and stuff i saw the trim ,this time i was in a guild group) We lost what a surprise eh? Still its different when it comes to hero the only thing that pops out to most people id say is how heroes concentrate there attacks so easily. Its not hard to get a whole bunch of aoe. Slap it together. Find a target in middle of the group and spam away. It makes heroway appealing but it also makes it easy to counter with human teams. The thing that appeals to me and probably moderatley good pvpers is the chance to get a fast group with the builds u want and not have to worry. Some limiting factors would help but theres no easy way to work with heroway without getting rid of it. To me either way its fine.

B Ephekt · Nov 14, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

If ha is no longer fun to peopl because of heroway then why do they do it...Btw seriously answer that last question in something that doesnt have to do with rank or faction.

A good majority of the HA population has quit playing, that's the main reason most people are against the current hero garbage. HA used to be a fun pvp arena, now it's just a joke full of pvers farming fame with heros.

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

Ya well it is this shit again. Everyone knows about it and u urself are no stranger to it i bet. See if i could get into a r12 group id probably be able to get fame and stuff. But it doesnt happen. Why? Because even though u might say ur good u dont have anything to prove you are.

I'm pretty sure we all started with 0 fame, so what's your point? If you don't make the effort to build up a friends list or find a good guild then it's really nobody's fault but your own.

Also, I find it funny that the people who complain about rank elitism are always the ones looking to get into higher ranked groups.

JR · Nov 14, 2006, 08:03 AM // 08:03