Curse

phasola · Oct 28, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Anet struck gold with 6 v 6 and now with heroes. It's like they left iway alone for months on end and now they kill the whole area in less than 1 month.
What were they thinking ? :O

Vel Satis · Oct 28, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Hero/Henchway on the first two maps virtually every game last night and a few on Scarred aswell. They need to take heroes out of HA, it's not PvP.

Phrozen_ · Oct 28, 2006, 10:00 AM // 10:00

I wish anet would RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing say something, its like they don't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing care that HA is now a piece of shit. Its just so frustrating now, boring matches, boring maps, ganking etc

scamPOR · Oct 28, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Heroes are DEFINATELY better with interupts then 90% of guildwars players and that is retardedly broken. It's bad enough getting your grenths (1/4th sec) cast interupted while farming wing for that axe you need for pvp... but in tombs? WTF that is beyond lame. It's boring enough only versing hench / heroes but they also interupt very very well... that that is not OK with me.

luilui · Oct 28, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Do anet actually read this forum..... Why do they want to mess up HA......

Bacon Goes Monk · Oct 28, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by luilui

Do anet actually read this forum..... Why do they want to mess up HA......

To make it easier for nubs to play and to get rid of the elitists. Which they're doing a great job at, unfortunately.

Yunas Ele · Oct 28, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Well, I take back my last post. Was just speculating there. Actually played some HA yesterday, the result of first run (didn't write down the other runs)

UW - Heroway
Broken - 1 heroway 1 real team
Scarred - Vsed Heroway fight 1, the other 2 teams fighting was a heroway vs real team. Real team won so we had to fight them.
Skipped unholy
Dark Chambers - Heroway
Courtyard - 1 heroway 1 real team
Sacred Temples - heroway.
HoH round 1 - both real teams
HoH round 2 - both real teams
HoH round 3 - both real teams (lost this one so run ended here)

Pleasently suprised with the lack of skips but I'd rather skip than farming ****ing pve bots.

tomcruisejr · Oct 28, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon Goes Monk

To make it easier for nubs to play and to get rid of the elitists. Which they're doing a great job at, unfortunately.

true true. piss them more a.net hahahah.

"Give HA to low ranks and let them have fame. HA grinders, go away. there will be no rank 15 emote!! "

Lord Mendes · Oct 28, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

in all fairness the game keeps improving, but HA keeps getting worse.
For those of you that are thinking "zomg they r noob bots, kill them", that is not the issue. A hero team can be easily taken down no matter how 1337 their interupting skills are.
The issue is that farming heroes is even worse than farming IWAY and henchway combined. It is just so boring to take down NPCs which are on most earlier maps and some golden ones (read Yunas's post). Well at least paladin "Brohn Killer Ironslayer" can get a bambi now... just like farming fow.

Cowboy Nastyman · Oct 28, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

you guys seriously need to stop whining, heroes give players that normally cant ha without sitting in lobby spamming for hours a real chance to win, it is making ha more accessible to everyone. you may think of fighting teams with heroes as the same old thing and boring but then what is fighting vimway smite and every other gimmick that is essentially the same 99% of fights?

Y O U Lo Se · Oct 28, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy Nastyman

you guys seriously need to stop whining, heroes give players that normally cant ha without sitting in lobby spamming for hours a real chance to win, it is making ha more accessible to everyone. you may think of fighting teams with heroes as the same old thing and boring but then what is fighting vimway smite and every other gimmick that is essentially the same 99% of fights?

So you're saying ppl can easier get into PvP while playing with NPC's, the don't learn sh*t of the game this way. I want to play real players ffs.

bcelmo · Oct 28, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

@Cowboy Nastyman: u really don`t realize that pvp means player versus player, and it was never intended to be one player versus one player, cause this is what it`s becoming. It`s becoming a Hero Arena with 6 man teams that can get u a bambi

alexthefire · Oct 28, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Think of this as a positive change....it gives noobs the chance to get groups easy....and it gives real teams easy fame ;D

bcelmo · Oct 28, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

why would u want that easy fame if it means nothing ?

Bacon Goes Monk · Oct 28, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy Nastyman

you guys seriously need to stop whining, heroes give players that normally cant ha without sitting in lobby spamming for hours a real chance to win, it is making ha more accessible to everyone. you may think of fighting teams with heroes as the same old thing and boring but then what is fighting vimway smite and every other gimmick that is essentially the same 99% of fights?

So you'd rather play NPC's instead of players? That's what PvE's for. Well, what it was for.

Cowboy Nastyman · Oct 28, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

you seem to miss the point when im in lobby ill see the same players endlessly spamming for a group and getting nowhere, with heroes they can go in and not have to wait all day. i know my opinion might not be popular with the leet r9+ players but so what screw elitism. all i am hearing is pointless crying, what the people whining about fighting npcs instead of players fail to realize is there is still at least that 1 human player that has to have some idea what hes doign to make it work so please jsut get over it.

ToxicWasted · Oct 28, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

This is just ridiculous.. All there's too say... What were they thinking? They nerfed UW and now made HA a solo farm area?

Edit: @Cowboy Nastyman, It's not supposed to be a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing RTS where you command your units!
It's a TEAMPLAY-BASED PvP Arena!

Eroth · Oct 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I expected that the heros-in-everything mood would have started sooner, but it seems to be pretty slow.

ps
What text is purple like that? I haven't seen anything like that before.

Lord Mendes · Oct 28, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexthefire

Think of this as a positive change....it gives noobs the chance to get groups easy....and it gives real teams easy fame ;D

lol i cant believe people still care about fame. No1, or at least the "real teams" couldnt care less about fame.

Let noobs learn how to PvP by letting them play with a group of bots, that is absolute BS. PVP is about team work and communication, and playing with REAL PLAYERS against REAL PLAYERS. You will never get better at PvP from playing with bots (or against them). Granted you might learn about the mechanics of many HA maps, but that is absolutely irrelivant because you are playing with BOTS. It no longer promotes teamwork, which is the basis of guildwars PvP.

Fame means absolutely jack schit, and no1 cares about the free fame. You play a game or gametype because it is fun, and the rewards are only a bonus.
I personally will b sticking around HA until I get too sick of roflpwning bots and getting meaningless fame and no satisfaction from wins.
Well at least paladin "Brohn killer ironslayer" will b getting 4 fame a night.
gg Anet, now he gets fissure AND a bambi, and i have nowhere 2 play.

lord of shadow · Oct 28, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

A sensible solution in my opinion would be to impose a limit saying that half a team must consist of human players in order for it to enter (this also applies to TA and GvG). This way the new players will still be able to get in easily (how hard is it to find two friends?) but they will be forced to co-operate on some basic level.

I thought that the excess of "heroway" would just be a passing thing, i played a lot of HA today- the first three maps have more heroway then not. They are infested with it. "Free fame" people cry, and that's all very well, but there's a problem:

Farming

NPCs

is

just.

simply.

boring.