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Desires · Oct 09, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Am I the only one who thinks running 2-3 heros with PD=new meta I mean hechie reflexs+Interupts are pretty much GG. I mean npcs can interupt 1/4 activation skills so no one would be safe(and good luck ressing)

Nurse With Wound · Oct 10, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Every good team can beat AI controlled bots with ease, simple because they lack well... intelligence

. Thus, loosing to a henchway , or "heroway" will never be a problem.

Some of the guys raised a good point there though. We play pvp to compete with real people. Fighting team comprised mostly ( in 6vs6 thats totally possible future ) of AI bots won't be fun. Hopefully they will be as rare is the future as the "classical" henchways are nowadays, simply because they are sub-par to even unexperienced human teams with voice communication.

sixdartbart · Oct 10, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by Ender69

First of all they arn't turning pvp into pve. They are giving a huge percentage of the guildwars population a chance to get into PvP.

Sorry to say so but if this is what you think you couldn't be more wrong.
If this is your chance to get into PvP you will be too late because it won't be PvP it will be PvSome guy and his heroes which IMO completely defeats the purpose and fun of PvP

As far as your point about how tough it is in GvGs that is kind of the point of excelling at anything if it's not challenging then why do it?
If you really want to do HA or GvGs you just need to put the effort in to make it happen,everyone has an opportunity to start from scratch find players and make a go of it. It's not easy but it is possible for anyone who really wants to do it.
As far as GvG goes you don't have to be one of the top 100 or 200 teams unless thats what you want to shoot for and it will require more effort than loading up some heroes and heading out to NOT PvP.

I personally hope they rethink letting heroes into high level PvP but I'm already rethinking buying Nightfall anyway so my opinion has little weight

Riotgear · Oct 10, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Yes, the AI is great with interrupting and ridiculously well-timed heals. Except they're extremely exploitable. They completely ignore pre-cast hexes like backfire and diversion. They'll use their hex and condition removal skills the instant they see a single condition or hex pop up. They don't kite anything. They'll pick a target and interrupt practically everything they cast, but ignore everyone else. These kinds of stupid tricks are what you abuse to win in PVE, just remember them and you'll win against "Heroway" just as easily.

dirtydutch · Oct 11, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Desires

Am I the only one who thinks running 2-3 heros with PD=new meta I mean hechie reflexs+Interupts are pretty much GG. I mean npcs can interupt 1/4 activation skills so no one would be safe(and good luck ressing)

i Make sure im using a useless skill in the beginning cus i cant cancel it anyway its gonna be intrupted. After that im using a 1 second skill

dirtydutch · Oct 11, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desires

Am I the only one who thinks running 2-3 heros with PD=new meta I mean hechie reflexs+Interupts are pretty much GG. I mean npcs can interupt 1/4 activation skills so no one would be safe(and good luck ressing)

i Make sure im using a useless skill in the beginning cus i cant cancel it anyway its gonna be intrupted. After that im using a 1 second skill

dirtydutch · Oct 11, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desires

Am I the only one who thinks running 2-3 heros with PD=new meta I mean hechie reflexs+Interupts are pretty much GG. I mean npcs can interupt 1/4 activation skills so no one would be safe(and good luck ressing)

i Make sure im using a useless skill in the beginning cus i cant cancel it anyway its gonna be intrupted. After that im using a 1 second skill

Thomas.knbk · Oct 22, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Wow, you actually managed to make a triple post
Ontopic, I basically agree with everyone who hates this

crucifix · Oct 24, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48

well this is what anet gets for catoring to the every day ADD gamer. oh well, as said before, free fame.. however it may make rank even more worthless.

Yarly · Oct 26, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

No matter how good they are, the heroes or henchmen, they not human. In my opinion, you just can't beat real players, so yeah there will be some occasions where heros + hench get to HoH etc, but sooner or later they are gonna be owned by a proper team or real players, you talk about these heros like once they start winning they never stop?

Tainek · Oct 26, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Can heros bodyblock? No

Can heros Split up (Relic Runs)? No

much ado about nothing

Ado · Oct 26, 2006, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Tainek

Can heros bodyblock? No

Can heros Split up (Relic Runs)? No

much ado about nothing

I wanted to write "QFT" But then I read todays gameupdate regarding control of henchies. Of course real players are better (in most cases

) but I'm sure lots of ppl will go full hench/hero. Most likely it'll turn out to be a good famefarmbuild in the first 6 weeks or so.

Tartagan · Oct 26, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

But aren't Heroes controled by players ? It more a RTS game than PvE ... Doesn't look so lame to me it's may be a good challenge for trained HA player to win with heroes ... or a good training for new HA players ...

It look way better than IWAY WIMway or bloodspike to me ...

Well interupts are overpowered and spike may be a problem but ... still ... playing balanced hero team is a challenge ...

Conclusion MAY be fun ... wait and see ... and stop crying about everything ^^.

apocalypse_xx · Oct 27, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

GW is about skill and teamplay...I don't want an RTS Guild Wars

masteroflife · Oct 27, 2006, 06:29 AM // 06:29

Hmmm.... Winning Hoh and holding it would be much easier. :d

Tainek · Oct 27, 2006, 08:27 AM // 08:27

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Originally Posted by Ado

I wanted to write "QFT" But then I read todays gameupdate regarding control of henchies. Of course real players are better (in most cases

) but I'm sure lots of ppl will go full hench/hero. Most likely it'll turn out to be a good famefarmbuild in the first 6 weeks or so.

the flags help, but bodyblocking requires precise positioning and reactions, it just wont work with AI

phasola · Oct 27, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Say hello to the new and improved tombs.

phasola · Oct 27, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Tombs is great now, it's just like pve with hench.

Tartagan · Oct 27, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by apocalypse_xx

GW is about skill and teamplay...I don't want an RTS Guild Wars

It's more about tactics IMO ... but it's just my point of view ...

Still it may be fun ... ^^

tomcruisejr · Oct 27, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by phasola

Tombs is great now, it's just like pve with hench.

i thought i made the most pathetic randomway team (lost vs 2 henchway in broken tower) last night until i saw that picture.