Oct 07, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Me/
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HoH + heroes => end of cooperative play ?
I was very disappointed when I saw this :
It's all good for PvE. But for PvP and especially for HoH, it makes me sad. Team number is now 6 and everyone can see the effectiveness of henchway. With Nightfall, will be HoH crowded by henchway, I mean heroesway ?
Yes there will be always good team made of real players who will defeat heroesway, but I think Heroes based team will pollute HoH as vimway team does.
I love the idea, to play 1vs1 + heroes in a special mod dedicated to heroes. But I don't like to see heroes everywhere in HoH...
The goal of nightfall is to make GW a rts game or a cooperative one ?
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Oct 07, 2006, 11:07 AM // 11:07
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#2
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Derka-Derka Land
Guild: Steel Phoenix (StP)
Profession: E/
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when it comes 2 PvP, any decent team with some leve of communication > hero teams. Nothing 2 b worried about.
Though I can imagine that it would b quite annoying to only play hero teams after sometime.
The only problem I can see is those l33t hero interupters, though parking them on priority targets would b pretty hard.
Last edited by Lord Mendes; Oct 07, 2006 at 11:11 AM // 11:11..
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Oct 07, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
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it just tells u anet's retarded belief of "must help the noobs filling the team".
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Oct 07, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39
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#4
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Krytan Explorer
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wow... they have got to be kidding. Hey guys if we fill up Hoh with henchway its still full right?!?
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Oct 07, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03
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#5
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Forge Runner
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If teams really end up being beaten in HA by teams comprised of 4 heroes, a real player, and a henchman, don't you think it just means those players should get a little better? I mean, the heroes were good, but they weren't that good. I think it's just Arenanet letting you use Heroes for everything you can use henchmen for.
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Oct 07, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09
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#6
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Zookeeper
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader
Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#
Profession: N/E
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Oh how splendid...
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Oct 07, 2006, 12:12 PM // 12:12
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
If teams really end up being beaten in HA by teams comprised of 4 heroes, a real player, and a henchman, don't you think it just means those players should get a little better? I mean, the heroes were good, but they weren't that good. I think it's just Arenanet letting you use Heroes for everything you can use henchmen for.
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i dont think it's about getting beaten by heroway, it's about it's going to be more lame teams in the world.
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Oct 07, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28
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#9
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Forge Runner
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O god. Does that mean that GvG might turn into 1 player + 3 heros + 4 henchies?
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Oct 07, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38
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#10
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Elite Guru
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: SMS/Victrix
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Hero flag runners, lol.
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Oct 07, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46
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#11
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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Lol reminds me of RTS games
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Oct 07, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09
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#12
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Den Haag
Guild: [cute]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Lol reminds me of RTS games
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lol, you're right. The first thing I thought of when I heard about customizable heroes was NWN Horder of the Underdark (I assume you mean RPG instead of RTS)
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Oct 07, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24
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#13
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Derka-Derka Land
Guild: Steel Phoenix (StP)
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
If teams really end up being beaten in HA by teams comprised of 4 heroes, a real player, and a henchman, don't you think it just means those players should get a little better? I mean, the heroes were good, but they weren't that good. I think it's just Arenanet letting you use Heroes for everything you can use henchmen for.
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I dont think you are getting the point. The only reason people play PvP is to actually play against other players online. How boring would it b to have to face hero-ways twice or three times a run.
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Oct 07, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42
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#14
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Desert Nomad
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In the words of Cartman...that's hella lame.
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Oct 07, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Denmark
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Hencheway sucks.
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Oct 07, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15
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#16
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Mendes
The only reason people play PvP is to actually play against other players online. How boring would it b to have to face hero-ways twice or three times a run.
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You got the point.
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Oct 07, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: OGF Ohio Geek Fest
Profession: W/
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I dont know what anet is trying to do. But imo making it 6v6 just made it worst. *sigh*
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Oct 07, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25
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#18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Moe's Pub
Guild: Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]
Profession: R/
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Well if they DO want us to have heroes in TA/HA/GvG, I'd vote for limitating the number of NPCs a team can bring. You couldn't have more than 4 henchies out of 8 players in HA: I'd say keep the ratio and don't let us have more than 3 henchies out of 6 players now, and count heroes (you can have up to 3 henchies OR 3 heroes).
But yeah it saddens me too.
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Oct 07, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Quebec
Guild: Pretty much stopped
Profession: Rt/
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That's something i can't say i agree with at all...
Heroes in PvE, i love them a LOT. Heroes in a 1v1 Hero arena? Awesome way to kill time when no one is on and you don't feel like newb bashing in RA.
I love the Heroes concept...
but Heroes in other PvP format? It's pretty easy to imagine that heroes team will 'infest' everything. Everyone unable to find a team will go in with their heroes and hope for some wins... against other people using heroes.
The reason i love PvP is for competition against other players. NOT to bash on AI, or half-controlled-by-player-AI. If they truly introduce Heroes in TA, HA and GvG it's gonna take out a LOT of the fun imo.
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Oct 07, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#20
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: New Dragons [NDR]
Profession: Mo/
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Dont like this hero stuff, maybe they cant even call GW a mmorpg after the release of NF?
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