Curse

leeky baby · Dec 01, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

i think farming champ points quickly is why they are doing it

becasue if u whatch if they start losing they quickly resign....they not there to win a championship :P

Giga Strike · Dec 01, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo!

Zoo X · Dec 01, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

paper, scissors, rock.
GvG as as see it, is not about builds made with steroids, the only problem i see ( if there is such a problem not really sure about it ) with the new iway as it is called, is the fire map, and up to some extend jade map, maps that allow to little tactic discussion , shame, since Tactics at GvG plays a major role, unlike at another arenas at the game.

some guy · Dec 01, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Yesterday, our guild decided to try out GvG.
Guess what? The first opponent we faced was an vimiway team.
Iway is making a comeback!!!

Oh Noes!!!

Kabale · Dec 01, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Mmmmm Jagged Bones minion bomber anyone?

Winstar · Dec 01, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

The first time I saw being run I thought it was crap. I can't remember who it was (it was a guild in the top 40 anyway), but as I followed their matches on obs mode they just kept losing. Then I saw Savios running it and it was a different story.

Drewfense · Dec 01, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by Patrograd

To be honest, I thought the build would be stronger with monks and a proper runner. Orders didnt seem to add much and the paragons are really pretty weak imo. Add a death necro and pet rezzes and you basically have thumper spam with massive edenial which would be stronger in just about every way imo

I haven't played the new IWAY with paragons, but people tend to underestimate OoV. OoV (besides being a lot of additional damage) is really the main source of healing for IWAY, far more than a few pips of regen. This became very evident when tombs IWAY teams started dropping OoV or OoA. The build was much more aggressive, but also was tremendously easier to train and pressure out warriors. I would even make the arguement that versus OoV, the backline should be your primary target, but OoA shifted the best way of beating IWAY to killing the warriors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VODA...

I've seen [BRB] Running IWAY too, saw them beat Ghostly Heroes and [Cow].

I'm not saying they thought of it, just that they're using it.

Exorsus Nox [Nox] a former smurf of Clan Detained was the first to run the build. It was then copied by [BRB] and now [Naut].

As for the individual characters, the first team I saw running the Steady Stance warriors was SNA on the first or second night of Nightfall. Their version was an axe I think. The D/N orders spam was originally made by whatever was left of Last Pride in early November. Nu then stole the build

and made it a little nastier using OoA instead of OoV and with more healing power. My guess though is that Nox made the runner independant of EviL and Nu.

Hundbert · Dec 01, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Yes, it was a pretty effective build taking advantage of the low warrior hate most guilds use in this current metagame. Obviously as some guilds were using next to nothing vs warriors the games lasted about 5 minutes or so.

It was a fun build to play that's for sure

Thomas.knbk · Dec 01, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

IWAY is like Cher, It will never die. Is GVG going to turn into ward camping and 3 monk backlines like HA did?

Lawl, and no.

I Brother Bloood I · Dec 01, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

People, Including myself, that run monks with paragons pre - update are probably still wasting their nrg like the paragons are there. Give them some time and use aegis chain. (if u can fit it in that is. imo u dont need paragons anymore so ya...)

Katina · Dec 01, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

IWAY is like Cher, It will never die. Is GVG going to turn into ward camping and 3 monk backlines like HA did?

Love the comparison!

Iway, blood spike, fun stuff comming back. The reason teams lost to it is because no one expects it. It'll blow over soon seeing how teams are expecting it now and preparing themselves. But grats at them having their 15 minutes.

Do svidaniya!

Eonwe · Dec 02, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

The new IWAY build makes me all warm and fuzzy inside ^_^ .

Julen · Dec 03, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Faced 3 guilds tonight running this, ranging from r200 to r400, we beat all 3 in under 5 minutes.

Aegis chain > iway

There are probably guilds who do run it effective, but those we faced didnt seem to know what they were doing.

Bowstring Badass · Dec 03, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Well we saw 4 warriors running at our monks and our Bsurge was playing on laptop and he wasnt playing very good well we were running a 5/2/1 (main team,gank team,flag runner) we got owned by the warriors buffed by paragons. The gank team was doing great bodyguard both knights and most archers down at 4 mins. I decide to push a flag around back like I planned the other team didnt see me and we got a boost (there flagger was like 60d or sumthing :P). We were pushed back to our lord and the gank team was on the other teams lord at like 8 at this time we ressed at our shrine. The monks ran straight to the lord and npcs. Well the other team says "shit the guild lord is dieing" and decides to run out the front by the time they got halfway there gg guild lord down.

This story reminds me that iway sucks and will always suck. Seriously whoever runs iway just alt+f4 please and don't waste the other teams time unless you can actualy run it effectivly. (excluding math who got rolled by touchies i will never forget that :P)

Thomas.knbk · Dec 03, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

IWAY is like Cher, It will never die.

You forgot to add, even though it's totally outdated and nobody wants it anymore.

Shaq · Dec 03, 2006, 12:22 PM // 12:22

ok.....
[BRB] is a pug guild we are no real guild as you might have noticed.
Some good ppl join in to farm champ points.
I wont give you names , but you may observe and take a closer look.

scamPOR · Dec 03, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

It's one of those it works verse people who aren't prepared / expecting it / bad and requires decent players for it to work. I haven't really seen anyone awesome lose to a badly played version so it isn't exactly imba.... just strong.

Patrograd · Dec 03, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaq

ok.....
[BRB] is a pug guild we are no real guild as you might have noticed.
Some good ppl join in to farm champ points.
I wont give you names , but you may observe and take a closer look.

What are you guys going to do about the playoffs? Will you be able to field a team?

Shaq · Dec 03, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrograd

What are you guys going to do about the playoffs? Will you be able to field a team?

no we wont as I said it is a pug guild it will be disbanded @ ladder freeze

Legendary Shiz · Dec 03, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Wow, that's uber lame tbh.