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JR · Nov 03, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by romO

Also, JR, I apologize for saying that ZB was going to be amazing. It's a good skill, but can't see using my elite spot on it. You have to admit the same is true with Glimmer, though.

Agreed.

linh · Nov 03, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Yeah, agaisnt any hex build, Divert works perfectly, but it is also a risk to choose it. Because again heavy-melee pressure or condition pressure, that skill is almost useless, and you can only use RoF, GoH and SoD to heal.
Choosing elite skills now depends on your build and the metagame, it is interesting. Not "almost everyone run Boon or BLight" as before.

Dragannia · Nov 03, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

In regards to Divert, it's much more viable on a Mesmer (replacing Expel) who doesn't really need their Elite to play a Domination Mesmer effectively. I still prefer Expel, however, it's a lot easier on the attributes.

Patrograd · Nov 04, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by granor

I think #3 is a must. Why do any of the skills "XXX as one" work when your pet is dead? That doesn't make any sense.

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So you can use this even without a pet?

*runs off to test*

JR · Nov 04, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

I don't see why you would want to do that though, the DPS from your pet under Rampage As One is quite considerable.

Drewfense · Nov 04, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Ran divert for the one match we played last night. It was a hex build. We raped. It was absolutely insane hex removal. It is a liability if you ever have to split your monks, but in builds that take that into account, it is a valid choice. I don't like it on mesmers because for it to be useful you have to invest in prot...and it is 10 energy compared to an expel at 5.

Patrograd · Nov 04, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by JR-

I don't see why you would want to do that though, the DPS from your pet under Rampage As One is quite considerable.

yes you're right, I just wanted to see if I could pack more damage without charm/comfort, I couldnt

audioaxes · Nov 04, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52

glimmer is so overrated

Lambentviper · Nov 04, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by Patrograd

yes you're right, I just wanted to see if I could pack more damage without charm/comfort, I couldnt

Hahaha hey patro its been a while....way back in SaS i believe

But yeah, the combinded IAS from you and your pet is like a super buffed Call of Haste/Locusts Fury A/R

Drewfense · Nov 04, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by audioaxes

glimmer is so overrated

READ THE THREAD! Lets no go through all the glimmer talk again.

Divert rocks, I am a believer. Hex team down.

Eonwe · Nov 05, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Rampage as One makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

TimTimTimma · Nov 05, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

Rampage as One makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

I dunno what anet was thinking when they made that skill. Lets toally nerf thumpers by killing tigers fury, and then like, TOTALLY buff them!

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 05, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

id like to make a statement about shadow meld. Lets say ur a sin right. U can gank and such thats all good. Now at the begining of the match u use shadow meld on lord and grab flag. use dark escape/dash/w/e run skill u could fit into ur build to get to flag. Cancel shadow meld after u open door to base (if there is a door with lever that is) Ur basicly at flag again.

Now thats all fine and dandy to some of u and now some are saying how could i use this with combat? No door bases are where this shines. U have someone accompany u to other persons base (maybe another shadow meld?) and u use shadow meld on person. U start ganking until people come back to there hall and u run. There like cool we got him out. Get into battle with ur group cancel enchant. Ur in there base again.

Edit - Can use it to get away by cancelin i suppose but its not as efficient this as aura of displacement.

Dragannia · Nov 05, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

id like to make a statement about shadow meld. Lets say ur a sin right. U can gank and such thats all good. Now at the begining of the match u use shadow meld on lord and grab flag. use dark escape/dash/w/e run skill u could fit into ur build to get to flag. Cancel shadow meld after u open door to base (if there is a door with lever that is) Ur basicly at flag again.

Now thats all fine and dandy to some of u and now some are saying how could i use this with combat? No door bases are where this shines. U have someone accompany u to other persons base (maybe another shadow meld?) and u use shadow meld on person. U start ganking until people come back to there hall and u run. There like cool we got him out. Get into battle with ur group cancel enchant. Ur in there base again.

Edit - Can use it to get away by cancelin i suppose but its not as efficient this as aura of displacement.

You realise that you can't Shadow Step past your radar range? As in, the furthest you'll shadowstep is to the edge of your radar. Otherwise people would be using things like Shadow Of Haste much more effectively.

Wasteland Squidget · Nov 05, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

You also cannot shadow step through gates, unless they are open when you shadow step.

around · Nov 05, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Corrupt enchantment is also good in any hex team. Heavy degen for only 10 energy plus the chance to remove an enchantment? Yes please!

Patrograd · Nov 05, 2006, 10:50 AM // 10:50

Price of pride at high domination in a hex team. So much better than sig humility imo

I Brother Bloood I · Nov 05, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

dammit i forgot u cant shadow step past ur radar range... im not much of a sin as u can see i only have 2 sin elites and i dont even have shadow meld lol

Patrograd · Nov 05, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

had a little look at light of deliverence this morning after seeing it used on obs last night

very nice indeed imo

Drewfense · Nov 05, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by Patrograd

Price of pride at high domination in a hex team. So much better than sig humility imo

Not really since it was nerfed. Shame is a significantly better skill now. It depends on the style of hex team. Sig of humil spam is a really nice option since most hex removal is put in elites nowadays, but it is hard to fit into a hex build. It is easier to revert to more strait forward forms of caster hate.

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Originally Posted by Patrograd

had a little look at light of deliverence this morning after seeing it used on obs last night

very nice indeed imo

Light of deliverance isn't a bad skill, builds made around it are bad builds. If you are using Light of Deliverance, that normally means you want to ditch the elmo with ether prod for something more offensive. So your only heal party is only on a monk now. Unlike an ele, a monk can't go hide in the far backline when he needs to catch up on heal parties. Even though it is a one second cast, it is very predictable when spamming and is very liable to shut down.