Curse

Symbol · Jan 03, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

It still doesn't even remotely justify a 2-second cast time, particularly since its conditional effect is both non-threatening AND easy to prevent. And it justifies a 10-second recharge too? lolol

Oh I think we're all in agreement here, Phades was just commenting on A.net's "reasoning" for making it suck. If anything I think my suggested changes were too conservative. Making it 5E/1S/5R would be a good start towards making it useful.

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Decreasing the recharge is a good idea, though I'd say it needs a damage and area boost more than it needs a duration boost. It's not only that firestorm is easy to walk out of, it's that no one cares if they walk in to it. You need to stand in it for 4 seconds to suffer the same damage as a single fireball.

Firestorm needs to have the same damage scale as searing heat. Nearby AoE and a 20 sec recharge would make it fairly decent area denial.

[skill=Lava Font]Lava Font[/skill] needs some tweaking too. Either make it a .75sec cast like all the other PbAoEs or up the duration so you don't have to spend so much time casting it. Upping the AoE is a possibility, but the damage is already pretty harsh as it is, 53 damage/sec in a nearby AoE might be a bit much.

Phades · Jan 03, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Yes but now multiply that 3-4 firestorms.

That is why aoe does not do huge dmg. Multiple instances spiked can be devistating.

Find a vid called hamstorm. Granted the players that lost to this are not the brightest but can illustrate how effective aoe can really be.

Yeah, those are my thoughts as well. If you increase the duration and improve the recharge, creating "kill zones" with more than one copy of aoe dot could become effective in more congested maps. Currently the uptime vs down time is way too out of whack. If the skill feels too weak, while being able to overlap aoe and what not, then nudge the damage slightly.

DarkRaider · Jan 03, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23

Iron Palm (Assasin Deadly Arts): Skill. Target touched foe suffers 5..50 damage, and if that foe is suffering from a Hex or Condition that foe is knocked down. Iron Palm counts as a lead attack.
-put down recharge from 20 to 10
-or put down energy from 10 to 5

Shroud of Silence (Assasin Deadly Arts): Hex Spell. All of your Spells are disabled for 15 seconds. For 3..10 seconds, target touched foe cannot cast Spells.
-Change from hex spell to skill (like blackout)
-or put down your own spells being disabled from 15sec to 10sec

Shield of Deflection (Monk Protection Prayers):Enchantment Spell. For 6 seconds, target ally has a 50..75% chance to evade attacks and gains 15..30 armor.
-Put down casting time to .25 sec
-or decrease energy cost to 5 energy

Mark of Protection (Monk Protection Prayers): Enchantment Spell. For 10 seconds, whenever target ally would take damage, that ally is healed for that amount instead, maximum 6..60. All your Protection Prayers are disabled for 5 seconds.
-put down recharge to 30sec, but bring up energy cost to 15
-remove disabling of protection prayers

Mirror of Disenchantment

Mesmer Domination Magic) Spell. Remove one Enchantment from target foe. All of that foe's party members also lose that same Enchantment.
-put down energy cost to 15, instead of 25

Warrior's Cunning: (Warrior Strength): Skill. For 5..11 seconds, your melee attacks cannot be "blocked" or "evaded."
-put down recharge to 30 secs

Tiger Stance: (Warrior Strength): Stance. For 4..10 seconds, you attack 33% faster. Tiger Stance ends if any of your attacks fail to hit.
-remove "fail to hit" part

Pet Attacks: (Ranger Beast Mastery):
-Basically put up damage dealt by pet attacks

Strike as One (ranger beast mastery):Shout. For 30 seconds, you and your pet's next 5 attacks deals 4..10 additional damage.
-put up damage dealt to 10-20

Expert's Dexterity: (ranger expertise) Preparation. For 24 seconds, all your attack Skills cost 150% more Energy and recharge 15..75% faster.
-put down energy penalty to 120%

Concussion Shot (Ranger Marksmanship): Bow Attack. If Concussion Shot hits while target foe is casting a Spell, the Spell is interrupted and your target is Dazed for 5..20 seconds. This attack deals only 1..16 damage.
-put down energy cost from 25 to 15

Quick Shot (Ranger): Bow Attack. Shoot an arrow that moves twice as fast.
-give this skill a damage bonus

Shared Burden (mesmer illusion magic): Hex Spell. For 3..17 seconds, target foe and all nearby foes move 50% slower.
-put down recharge to 10sec
-put down energy cost to 10

Images of Remorse (mesmer illusion magic): Hex Spell. For 5..10 seconds, target foe suffers -1..3 Health degeneration. If that foe was attacking, that foe takes 10..52 damage.
-make degeneration -1..4

Life Siphon (necromancer blood magic): Hex Spell. For 12..24 seconds, target suffers -1..3 Health degeneration, and you gain +1..3 Health regeneration.
-make degeneration -1..4 and +1..4

Mark of Subversion (necromancer blood magic): Hex Spell. For 4..10 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally of that foe, the Spell fails and you steal up to 10..92 Health from that foe.
-decrease recharge from 30sec to 20sec

Kirin's Wrath (monk smiting prayers): Spell. For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location in which the spell was cast take 8..32 holy damage each second.
-change to: Spell. For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to target ally take 8..32 holy damage each second.

Reversal of Damage (monk smiting prayers): Enchantment Spell. For 8 seconds, the next time target ally would take damage, the foe dealing the damage takes that damage instead (maximum 5..75).
-decrease recharge from 8sec to 5sec

Zealot's Fire (monk smiting prayers): Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, whenever you use a Skill that targets an ally, all foes adjacent to that target are struck for 5..35 fire damage and you lose 1 Energy.
-remove energy loss

Monk's damaging smiting prayers: Increase damage dealt by skills such as: Banish, Holy Strike, Spear of Light etc

Bigger Redd · Jan 03, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

Incendiary Arrows 5e/2c/24r
For 8 seconds, targets struck by your arrows are interrupted and set on fire for 1...3 seconds.

Increase duration to 12 seconds

Ignorance15e/1c/10r
For 8...18 seconds target foe cannot use Signets.

Decrease energy cost to 10

Riotgear · Jan 04, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by DarkRaider

Strike as One (ranger beast mastery):Shout. For 30 seconds, you and your pet's next 5 attacks deals 4..10 additional damage.
-put up damage dealt to 10-20

I think any real improvement to Strike would make it dangerously effective in r-spike. Remember that it's a shout, so it stacks with preparations.

Divineshadows · Jan 04, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

I think any real improvement to Strike would make it dangerously effective in r-spike. Remember that it's a shout, so it stacks with preparations.

But the skill is in beast mastery which would divert points away from marksmanship and expertise. Any lowering of marksmanship and expertise and the ranger spikes become less effective. Plus you'd be giving up the utility elites such as charge and crippling shot that a ranger spike normally brings.

Royale · Jan 04, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

Buff all the hard rezzes except rez chant somehow as they all pale in comparison to rez signet.

. . . ! WTF!!!

Ignorance - decrease energy to 10
Spirit Shackles - decrease cast time to 2 seconds
Mistrust - increase damage and the aoe to all allies in the area
Frustration - decrease energy cost to 5
Power Leak - decrease energy cost to 5 and decrease energy lost
Power Spike - decrease energy cost to 5
Guilt - decrease recharge to 15 seconds
Panic - decrease energy cost to 15 and increase aoe to all foes in the area
Price of Pride - make a set duration of 30 seconds and increase the energy lost
Shatter Hex - increase aoe to all foes in the area
Simple Thievery - have it disable one random non-spell as well as one random spell, and have it be replaced by the spell, since any non-spell will be useless to someone using this elite
Unnatural Signet - have it damage target spirit as well as all adjacent spirits, and increase the damage a bit
Arcane Languor - increase the duration for the love of God
Mantra of Recovery - increase the duration
Stolen Speed - spells you cast against anyone should cast 25% faster not just the target you placed Stolen Speed on.
Symbols of Inspiration - decrease recharge to 20 seconds
Conjure Nightmare - this skill sucks, decrease the energy or do something decent to at least make this skill tangible
Ethereal/Kitah's Burden - even though this will make RA and TA more annoying than they already are, either decrease the energy to 10 or decrease the recharge to 30 seconds or both, screw it
Fevered Dreams - have it hex all foes in the area and whenever a condition is put on one of them, it tranfers to all who are hexed with Fevered Dreams (may overpower this skill a bit, but how often can you make mass hexes and mass conditions coincide in one build?)
Illusion of Pain - just remove this trash from the game
Soothing Images - decrease cast time to 1 second
Discharge Enchantment - instead of if the foes is hexed, how about if that foes still has an enchantment on them this skill recharges blah blah blah faster (may overpower this)
Drain Enchantment/Inspired Hex - these skills were treated a little harshly with the last update, their energy return is a bit stingy at all but the highest levels

Mantra of Resolve - with Distortion getting raped last balance the only viable pvp-oriented trapper is an Oath Shot guy. Using anything else just invites you to be interrupted 50% of the time by random wand spam and have 0 energy for the majority of your game. Decrease the energy lost on this so we at least can run some of the elite traps without having to rely on multiple evade stances to keep us safe. Playing trapper should not be that RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing annoying. And don't scream at me saying this will make ele spikes more dangerous cause that's bs.

Signet of Illusions - decrease cast time to 1 second

Wow that's just for the mesmer, I'll throw together some other classes shortly.

Divineshadows · Jan 04, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

I just thought of another skill that needs buffing:

- Guardian. Reduce cast time to 3/4 seconds.

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