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Thomas.knbk · Nov 30, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Sven788

Every human player is better then a NPC and if you aren't your a big noob

Do you know what the average skill level in AB is?

shardfenix · Dec 04, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Ironically, alliance battles is the most balanced pvp arena there is right now, and yet only pve players go there. The only thing I could really complain about is the touch rangers, whose only counter is an interrupter, which is pointless to bring into AvA.

=HT=Ingram · Dec 04, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

yea I'm happy the original is restored. BUT I hope to show that this only goes to prove the system is Capable of much larger battle arenas... a 48vs48 battle was fantastic and was no more laggy then anything else. So hopefully though its gone from Factions, and rightfully so. Something should be preserved of such large battles in Nightfall.

Arkantos · Dec 04, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by Sven788

Every human player is better then a NPC and if you aren't your a big noob

Interupt better then a hero plz. If you can't, you along with practically everyone else are big noobs.

Series · Dec 10, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Interupt better then a hero plz. If you can't, you along with practically everyone else are big noobs.

Heroes don't know how to interrupt crucial skills which is a major disadvantage of them.

Franco Power · Dec 10, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Do you know what the average skill level in AB is?

There is skill in AB ?

bungusmaximus · Dec 11, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

There is skill in AB ?

If not, then my whole alliance is made out of n00bs, which I find hard to believe...

The Silver Star · Dec 11, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

If not, then my whole alliance is made out of n00bs, which I find hard to believe...

You better believe it.

Dutch Masterr · Dec 12, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15

err im confused....since when can heros participate in alliance battles? ive never once seen a hero there and i play in ab every day....

nvm, i read some more posts and saw that that was fixed =P

Randomway Ftw · Dec 12, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

You know AB sucks when mending is the metagame.

Its just 12 VS 12 RA anyways.

Riotgear · Dec 12, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

You know AB sucks when mending is the metagame.

Its just 12 VS 12 RA anyways.

I'd say it's better than RA in that you can punt uncooperative members instead of just pushing the button and praying. You'll never face a team in AB completely composed of rits/monks either. :P

bungusmaximus · Dec 12, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

LOL i meet many a decent player there folks, of course also the mending wammos u talk about, but to say skill level there sucks monkey balls is downright wrong. I have some people on my friends list that very well know how to play. U dont want to know how often people that get bored with high end PvP (like Heroway ascent, plz don't make me laugh) play AB every now and then. Me and my guildies are a tight team with a build that got more then 5 minutes of thought. It's very interesting type of PvP if u ask me, it requires a completely oher approach then HA or TA and the like. At least people aren't running the same build all the time (Hello searing flames). Don't tell me u never meet noobs in TA :P

I think the only scrub-proof PvP is Guild versus Guild...

kahn of war · Jan 04, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

One thing that bugs me about AB is how high the max title is! 10million is just to hard and time consuming to get

Reinfire · Jan 11, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

I hope that the 36v36 is a bug, cus this way it will become complete chaos and I like to be able to put my blades into isolated casters.

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There is skill in AB ?

From time to time you see an innovative build pop up in AB, but for the most part its just people with cheap common skill sets like:

- sever/gash/final
- horns of the ox/falling spider
- N/Me random curse spammer
- Armour of Earth/Stoneflesh Aura
- Riposte spammer

Ever since NF I hardy see any touchers anymore though, which is a +

ibex333 · Jan 11, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Eavilexia

Im pritty sure i speak for alot of players in this topic, ever since factions was released i have seriously enjoyed the PvP of guildwars in the form of alliance battles, 12 vs 12 PvP games controling shrines to earn points and win.

I log in 2night as usual for some alliance battle fun just to enter and find myself fighting against a whole lot of AI, yes you guessed it, hero's. what happened to PLAYER vs PLAYER, what makes pvp enjoyable is not having to fight against the same stupid exploitable AI over and over, AI has never been realistic and wil NEVER be. it is not the same as player vs player. Now everyone wil bring his own personal monk hero's to alliance battles, how nice having a healer that wil never leave your side.

this has totaly ruined AB's for me personaly and i ask if any other players feel the same about this please speak up.

make arena's for noobs that cant PvP the proper way, to go fight with hero's but dont ruine good pvp with AI. PvP is what draw players to guildwars.

Until alliance battles are 12v12 without the use of hero's i doubt i wil ever take part in another alliance battle.

100% NOT SIGNED!

I dont agree. When are people going to stop crying about heros?! 1st you whiners removed heros from HA, now you want to do the same with AB.
Please Anet, DONT listen to this person.
Let me explain why:

At this point AB is pretty much dead. There are very few people playing it, and it takes forrever to get into a team and start a battle. When NF came out, at least lack of people can be substituted with heros. But if there were no heros, what would people who want to get faction do? Gring through the repeatable quests? Sit in AB place forever waiting for a team?

PURE FLESH · Jan 11, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34

they have totaly destroyed ab nobody playing it more after Nf arrived they should make some new instead of luxon and kurzick and randomly the guilds so they can choice again

Saider maul · Jan 11, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

I am not sure how many of you actually participated in guilds specializing in AB's. I tried that route and went thru 4 alliance battle guilds. Skill is not the issue, Mental capacity and puberty is the issue in alliance battle guilds.
So dont think ABers are less skilled, Think of them as less developed.

in all 4 AB guilds i was in, the average age was 11-14yrs old with PvE mentality tward the battle. In each of the 4 guilds i lasted from 20 minutes-2 days. I do AB's its a good place to relax at times. But only with at least 1-2other people i know and play with. Alliance Battles are a good place for these evolving children to play and grow but it is not what i consider a competative PvP enviroment. Although it can at times be challenging fighting the idiot factor of your would-be allies.

You know a well skilled PvPer in AB's when waves of 6-10 hit the same 2-3 people and repeatedly fail taking those few people down.

There is an insane wait for whatever reason and it seem Anet is either to lazy or to cheap address that issue as its been unaddressed for over 8 months now.

I do feel that this game does need a 12 vs 12 battle that is not AB related.
12vs12 would make for some truely awsome PvP engagments if you could have all 12 on 1 team.

Hero's I feel should be let back into Alliance Battles for the simple fact is they have a higher IQ
then alot of those you would PUG. The problem with heros before they were removed was that they didn't count as a player so you had battles raging upwards of 30vs30.
I enjoyed my heros more then almost any PUG and would use them again in a heartbeat.
I pray that one day they let heros back into alliance battles.

FYI Necro Heros are better at MMing then 99% of human players including myself.

Moun10Dew · Feb 05, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Eavilexia

make arena's for noobs that cant PvP the proper way, to go fight with hero's but dont ruine good pvp with AI.

this did :S, HB (hero battles). people there just /roll 100 and the one who rolls lower leaves, and the other person gets lots of faction.

SOMETIMES people actually fight, and i find it amusing because you can make up your whole 4-team-hero build. most people usaully play SF or "hodling" builds, but it is fun when you accasionally come across someone with an origonal build.

ON TOPIC i agree. but still...sometimes...heroes are smarter than real people.

Riotgear · Feb 05, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

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Originally Posted by Saider maul

I do feel that this game does need a 12 vs 12 battle that is not AB related.
12vs12 would make for some truely awsome PvP engagments if you could have all 12 on 1 team.

I don't think this would really be that great if only because of scaling. Some things like spike and large-effect stuff like shouts, Aegis and Heal Party scale very well with player count, and are extremely powerful in 8v8 alone.

While it may be irrelevant due to the fact that AB terrain more or less forces splitting, it isn't really that difficult to choke most of the maps and force everyone into a confrontation.

SotiCoto · Feb 12, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Pity I missed the whole heroes-in-AB thing... My heroes are fairly pimped to say the least. We've got the whole group-build thing going on....
Now all I have to rely on in AB are PuGs.... Some happen to be decent, good leaders... whatever. Others (majority) are just useless cannon-fodder who I insist on backing up just to ensure a greater chance of group survival.