Curse

Eavilexia · Oct 27, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Im pritty sure i speak for alot of players in this topic, ever since factions was released i have seriously enjoyed the PvP of guildwars in the form of alliance battles, 12 vs 12 PvP games controling shrines to earn points and win.

I log in 2night as usual for some alliance battle fun just to enter and find myself fighting against a whole lot of AI, yes you guessed it, hero's. what happened to PLAYER vs PLAYER, what makes pvp enjoyable is not having to fight against the same stupid exploitable AI over and over, AI has never been realistic and wil NEVER be. it is not the same as player vs player. Now everyone wil bring his own personal monk hero's to alliance battles, how nice having a healer that wil never leave your side.

this has totaly ruined AB's for me personaly and i ask if any other players feel the same about this please speak up.

make arena's for noobs that cant PvP the proper way, to go fight with hero's but dont ruine good pvp with AI. PvP is what draw players to guildwars.

Until alliance battles are 12v12 without the use of hero's i doubt i wil ever take part in another alliance battle.

Empex · Oct 27, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Having Heroes in Alliance battles is a bad idea but there's no need to be so dramatic about it.

Dr Strangelove · Oct 27, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

I'm confused, are you complaining that it's harder to kill AI controlled monks than humans who communicate, anticipate and strategize?

The Pointless · Oct 27, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Erm, couldn't it just be one of those Day One bugs?

derrtyboy69 · Oct 27, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

HOOORRAAAYYYY I can play ABs by myself not with a bunch of retards, and join alone. Its a great day for guild wars. Mabye ABs will be fun again, but i think they have to have more servers running then they do.

Eavilexia · Oct 27, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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I'm confused, are you complaining that it's harder to kill AI controlled monks than humans who communicate, anticipate and strategize?

nope m8, its nothing do about win or lose, its about player vs ai, human players react random, where ai react to certain conditions, having ai in pvp removes the random element.

Aegis Byrth · Oct 27, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Yeah, heroes have decresed ALOT the global fun in casual pvp for me ( and for the majority of the pvpers on my friend list).

It's not about easier/harder , killing ai controlled enemies just gets boring after a while if you have no interest in the "rewards" ( i already have all 15k kurzick i needed , and full unlock- really dont care about easy amber/faction).

I'm more scared about what will happen to HA btw :S

TheOneMephisto · Oct 27, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

HA is basically 50% or more heroway/henchway... not really fun.

Vermilion · Oct 28, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Meh, I prefer Aspenwood to AB anyway..no heroes there.

And since when are alliance battles the pinnacle of PvP anyway?
lol.

Riotgear · Oct 28, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Vermilion

And since when are alliance battles the pinnacle of PvP anyway?
lol.

Large-scale yet laid-back (i.e. light death penalties), almost squad-style PvP? I dunno, I thought it was the most fun form of it that the game had to offer.

Sounds like a bug though. Henchmen aren't allowed in AB, why are heroes?

Blame the Monks · Oct 28, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

I'm confused, are you complaining that it's harder to kill AI controlled monks than humans who communicate, anticipate and strategize?

Are you kidding? The heros are better than 95%+ of the players in the game.

Franco · Oct 28, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Some better, some worse, bu true, there are some better.

Riotgear · Oct 29, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

There's a much bigger problem. If you join alone, it'll match you with 3 other players. AND YOUR HEROES STILL JOIN!

I just got done steamrolling the Kurzicks with my group of 4 people and 12 heroes. Oh yeah, and 8 other teammates, at least. This needs fixing immediately.

Egilson · Oct 29, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

There's a much bigger problem. If you join alone, it'll match you with 3 other players. AND YOUR HEROES STILL JOIN!

I just got done steamrolling the Kurzicks with my group of 4 people and 12 heroes. Oh yeah, and 8 other teammates, at least. This needs fixing immediately.

Exactly, the big problem is attached. I bet you were one of my teammates. It is pretty ridiculous, and if this becomes widespread AB will be ruined until they fix it.

Eroth · Oct 29, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14

The heros in ab do take away some of the joy of killing other ppl around the world, but as computers are, they have errors...like when they decided to get stuck in a wall in a big group with 8 other heros. I pwned them all and the owners kept complaining and calling me a hacker. Yes they might be better than leavers, leechers, and the occasional dumbass but humans don't usally get stuck in a wall do they? and the heros can't do the /stuck emote either, so they're scrwd till they die and rez.

Riotgear · Oct 29, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Egilson

I bet you were one of my teammates.

Nah, I'm running as Blinding Laserbeams using my new favorite build. :P

Egilson · Oct 29, 2006, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

Nah, I'm running as Blinding Laserbeams using my new favorite build. :P

Lol yeah, I did play one game with you. (See screenshot)

Lord Palidore · Oct 29, 2006, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Though it is an obvious bug, I loe ABs now..36 vs 36 if both sides have heroes :P

Eavilexia · Oct 29, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

i stil think heros should completely be removed from AB HA TA GVG completely, and places for hero battles or any combination heros/players but should be hosted.

Eroth · Oct 29, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

the 36 v36 is all great n' stuff but I don't think Each team if going to be loaded up on heros.

ps
egilson, u don't need a rez sig in ab. slap another attack in there or something.