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Mental Leteci · Jan 31, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

It's possible without vent.
It's easier with vent.
Why does always someone has to brag about beating someone like they achieved impossible?
Ventrilo can harm your computer as much as Guild Wars.
Yes, ventrilo uses bigger amount of bandwith if you want quality which is the main difference people use ventrilo over TS.
If you want to chat with people without the huge traffic you should use TS, but the quality of sound will shock you.
Any group is viable without vent if people know what to do or if you tell them their job at the start. Infinite interrupting is disabled now so it shouldn't be a huge problem.

Mirado · Feb 01, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

Two Map types need vent:

altar maps and relic runs.

If your team is good and everyone knows what you're doing you can tear through most maps with ease.

If your fairly inexperienced in HA or plan on holding for a while, Vent is a requirement.

Don't trust teams with TS.

Yea IMO any player who says "r9 lfg got ts/vent" or for that matter any player I always reject them

God Apprentice · Feb 01, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

I dont know how can you play serious pvp and be sucessful without voice-comm. Its impossible. Unless you run smth like IWAY or zergway, where everyone knows their role, and its pretty straighforward what to do. You will probably gonna fail in relic runs anyway.

So my answer is no, its impossible to play well without vent, and I would never admit someone without it to my group.

Well actually Pheryel and Loki use vent when they Zerg, though with that particular build I don't believe PuGs are

In my personal opinion voice communication is essential and makes it a lot easier to coordinate tactics

Senator Tom · Feb 01, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

not important if you're leet.

theoretically, people can play competitively without vent. and doing it is like riding a bicycle without always thinking about balancing it.

100%
think koreans, or iway
i also run with lots of high ranked groups without vent and we still roll everything

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

or plan on holding for a while, Vent is a requirement.

Don't trust teams with TS.

1. depends when you're holding, early morning maybe not, peak hours probably

2. dont trust r9- teams with ts, when i wake up early on weekends i usually end up pugging with random europeans who use ts, usually french or german, but we still rock the house, or halls i should say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

I dont know how can you play serious pvp and be sucessful without voice-comm. Its impossible. Unless you run smth like IWAY or zergway, where everyone knows their role, and its pretty straighforward what to do. You will probably gonna fail in relic runs anyway.

So my answer is no, its impossible [for me] to play well without vent, and I would never admit someone without it to my group.

try playing with people who know what they're doing? people should always know their role...
also, speak for yourself. many many groups are successful without vent/ts (again, just think about the koreans)

Nurse With Wound · Feb 01, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

I was talking about serious pvp , but meh, whatever, play without voice comm if that makes you happy. You can always type the tactics in team chat during the fights. Whatever is good for you. My teams ( both guild and flist ) are always using vent, because it simply helps.

tacitus · Feb 01, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Voice comm is so useful I cant imagine playing without it. The amount of times we have changed strategy because of something is huge.

Telling interrupters to change targets for whatever reason is so much easier on vent. Saying what skill needs a dis shot etc

Calling the other teams infuser

(GvG side off topic but important) Saying who is where doing what on the other side of the map is so imporatant its unbelieveable.

I have used ts/vent since rank 0 and believe its a must. Anyone not hearing the fact we are pulling out of a situation or body blocking this character etc is a liability. Not to mention builds with dual mesmers or cgas needs to communicate with each other never mind anyone involved in a spike!

tomcruisejr · Feb 01, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06

i will only play gw with vent if there are chicks who talk like this...

chick monk: im giving you a mending touch now.
chick monk: i need an infuse. infuse me with all that you got
chick monk: i'm being hammered like hell ayayayay.
chick monk: im being spiked (kiting) im being spiked. ahhhhhhh.
chick monk: did you like my infuse on you?

seductively..

Apple · Feb 01, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Pffft... since when did tomcruisejr play with monks! All he needs is a N/Mo with HP.

Thomas.knbk · Feb 01, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Those N/Mo's carry infuse too. And they're prime spike targets. And I'm sure they would've had mending touch if iway was still alive after nightfall.
I LOL'd

bungusmaximus · Feb 01, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

I love voice chat, I don't have a mic (yet) but it helps such a great deal already if I can hear what the team is up to. Mic isn't really required if theres a clever caller, but it sure helps. Not that I HA too often, but many people in TA use it too. In every form of PvP where voice chat is commonly used I feel that i'm at a disadvantage when my team doesn't use it. I would never enter HA without vent, the few times I tried that I always came up against some super-coordinated team that rolled us with ease. I'm not too experienced at HA anyway so I would be deaf dumb and blind without voice chat, I still need seasoned players at the moment to call strategies because I can't always trust my own judgement.

Paddatoochie · Feb 01, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Yeah if I had it I would probably only listen in, as my Computer is in a common area.

I apreciate all your import guys and maybe girls (I dunno sorry :\).

Lord Mendes · Feb 01, 2007, 12:06 PM // 12:06

It's like running a marathon without shoes.
Sure you CAN do well, but hell, why would you put yourself at a disadvantage.

bungusmaximus · Feb 01, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

bit of off-topic nonsense: Some african guy actually won AND broke a world record without shoes :P

RotteN · Feb 01, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28

he would've done so much better with shoes though :P

vent is essential, i had my vent crash while playing split and well, i got killed twice because i wasn't informed of collapses onto our split team and i only noticed it once they came radar range = too late to safely get out

Mr Seph · Feb 01, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

i will only play gw with vent if there are chicks who talk like this...

chick monk: im giving you a mending touch now.
chick monk: i need an infuse. infuse me with all that you got
chick monk: i'm being hammered like hell ayayayay.
chick monk: im being spiked (kiting) im being spiked. ahhhhhhh.
chick monk: did you like my infuse on you?

seductively..

I think you would actually look more intelligent if you didnt post.

For vent, imo, communication is key to victory. And vent is in my eyes the best option for that. Sure, you can play without it, and hell, if you are playing with leteci, you dont even wanna be on vent, but its always better if the strats are giving fast and easy noticable.

Franco Power · Feb 01, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

lawl, I actually played with some girls like that on vent :P, my god, one of the reasons i love pvp lol

PURE FLESH · Feb 01, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

vent is not needed allways you can talk with your group/guild before you go and get a caller follow he's call's - ranked or not its not show's your true experience cus ppl might got it from iway = no skillz

Senator Tom · Feb 01, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

I was talking about serious pvp , but meh, whatever, play without voice comm if that makes you happy. You can always type the tactics in team chat during the fights. Whatever is good for you. My teams ( both guild and flist ) are always using vent, because it simply helps.

i dont know about you, but a group of rank 11's who are too lazy to get on vent but still end up holding halls seems serious to me. i'm not saying vent is very useful, just that its not necessary, because people who have played the maps over and over and over and over have most likely come across every type of situation that is possible to happen, and know what to do in any circumstance.

Lord Mendes · Feb 01, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

i dont know about you, but a group of rank 11's who are too lazy to get on vent but still end up holding halls seems serious to me. i'm not saying vent is very useful, just that its not necessary, because people who have played the maps over and over and over and over have most likely come across every type of situation that is possible to happen, and know what to do in any circumstance.

This does not mean that it won't help you, and odds are the party would have done much better had they been on vent.
Saying that the OP doesn't need vent for HA because a group of fame farmers won halls with zergway this morning is not really a valid argument.
Also note that the OP is nowhere near rank 11.
Name me one decent guild playing a normal build that consistantly got into the top 50 without vent (I will laugh if you say MATH).

Mental Leteci · Feb 01, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

100%
think koreans, or iway
i also run with lots of high ranked groups without vent and we still roll everything

try playing with people who know what they're doing? people should always know their role...
also, speak for yourself. many many groups are successful without vent/ts (again, just think about the koreans)

OK did you actually see them with your own eyes they're not using vent?
Let's assume you did, have you ever thought Koreans get together in the same room and play?
Let's say I'm wrong again, if they really don't use vent or any other communication except chat, maybe that's the reason they suck so much? Say hi to Brehon and MiNi from Leteci.