Curse

PyrAnkh · Dec 12, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Do you still wonder why kurzick was pushed back to grentz frontier?

yes, i gave them 2 full timers to disagree, and they didnt. They only showed off their own builds, and therefore i asked again (are you sure?). I left the party not to cause anymore harm to the kurzick frontline than these fellas already did.

Franco Power · Dec 12, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Mmm so you saying AB'ers have no skill

the news is ?

Riotgear · Dec 12, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

No, this is why they lose:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:BadSpirits.jpg

Seriously though, both sides have their share of idiots. You know how they get pushed back to Grenz Frontier? Momentum bonus, duh. Things are slightly stabler now, but it's virtually impossible to push to Saltspray WITHOUT pushing to the next map.

Carth` · Dec 12, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

Do you still wonder why kurzick was pushed back to grentz frontier?

yes, i gave them 2 full timers to disagree, and they didnt. They only showed off their own builds, and therefore i asked again (are you sure?). I left the party not to cause anymore harm to the kurzick frontline than these fellas already did.

I don't understand what your point is here. You're saying YOU made Kurzick lose with your awful build?

Dark Dragon · Dec 12, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

slight problem... i just won 4/5 AB battles for kurzick so..ummm

bye

oh and yesterday we were in deep luxon territory.
so we aren't losing the border shifts quite often

PyrAnkh · Dec 13, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by Carth`

I don't understand what your point is here. You're saying YOU made Kurzick lose with your awful build?

Not really, as said, i left the party after taking the screenshot. Im not really into AB as i find it like RA: full of morons. The point im trying to make is that people will take anybody to fill their parties, even though they obviously have awfull builds. This way AB will never become a challenge. Me and a couple guildies went wammoway for a laugh (sever, gash, galrath, final thrust, mending, healing hands, ressurect, healing breeze), and we took a mo/w on frenzy. Suprise suprise, we won with large difference numbers. Ive seen builds in AB that would make the worst RA player feel like a genious. No silly touchers, expertise does NOT decrease the energy of life siphon and shadowstrike. No, mo/e with firestorm does not really work. Nor do e/r trappers.

Riotgear · Dec 13, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

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No silly touchers, expertise does NOT decrease the energy of life siphon and shadowstrike. No, mo/e with firestorm does not really work. Nor do e/r trappers.

They can usually afford siphon because it's fairly efficient by itself, even if slow-acting. It's vamp gaze that they're severely wasting energy on.

I saw a R/E with Rodgort's Invocation once. Too bad I just missed the screenshot.

Yes, the skill level of AB is pretty low, but at the same time, you have some control over it. You don't HAVE to keep morons who split off the group and run terrible builds. You CAN do your part and auto-refuse any W/Mo join request.

bungusmaximus · Dec 13, 2006, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Yup, lemme give some tips to get an at least decent team (these are not for the OP, dont get me wrong, but for the people the op is talking about). I stick with my point that not all AB players are scrubs, but theres still enough to worry about

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-Think about what you can encounter and select players to counter that when you form a group, such as:
Assassin/thumper to kill these annoying monks
Ranger to snare people
Minion master for some extra muscle (AND FFS, DON'T LET HIM DIE)
Nuker for fast capping

Not that you need these particular classes, but at least give it some thought how to become as flexible as possible, cos in AB you have to be prepared for everything.

-Theres some pretty neat titles that you want in your group, like ally/friend/steward of the kurzicks, or Gladiator and the like. These titles show PvP experience. And try to get a title yourself so decent groups will invite you faster.

-Bring self defensive skills, bring self defensive skills and bring self defensive skills. Your character should be as self-sufficient as possible. If you happen to loose your group you are on your own until you find it again.

-Stick with your group, and if you form a group, try to lead it, or appoint another group leader. Else confusion will scatter your group. if people don't cooperate, wait out the game and ditch them afterwards, its not rude to expect at least some competence. If you join a group that's not working together, try to take the lead yourself (Be nice though, don't flame, use the magic word).

-Cap as many shrines as possible, pointless mob fights are very tempting, but also very pointless. The time you spend fighting over the same res shrine will be used by the enemy to capture the other shrines, so even if you win that particular fight, you still lose the match. Think big

-Don't mob, if another group goes the same direction as you, take another turn, your side should be represented everywhere on the battlefield, not just in one place. Mobbing is the key to losing. If the enemy is mobbing, avoid the mob and cap and run. In order to recap the shrines the enemy mob either splits up to recap the shrines or it keeps mobbing and loses the match.

-Equip the mini map to see what shrines belong to what side, if you see to many shrines having the wrong colour make a round over the battlefield to take them back. If theres only one team properly capping it greatly affects the match already.

Riotgear · Dec 13, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

I'd disagree. For AB, basically the rules of thumb are:

- Bring a group which can kill things quickly. You need to minimize time spent capping each shrine, and minimize the time spent fighting other groups in your way. A group with 2 assassins is actually a pretty good idea.

- Going with the previous rule, "tanks" are an absolute no-no. You don't need an invincible waste of space that can't kill anything, because the longer you spend fighting a group, the more likely their buddies are to arrive and kill the rest of your group.

- Don't bring players who can take out shrines, but not other players. DOT nukers can clear shrines fast, but the moment with a brain steps in your way, they become a liability.

- Go where the other team isn't.

- Never attempt to take a resurrection shrine without at least a 1-person starting advantage. The respawns will overwhelm you.

- If you get a shrine lead on Keys or Frontier, camp the other base's exits and choke them.

- For Canyon or Frontier, hold the equipment stations. They're easier to control than the over-zerged resurrect shrines.

And that's about it. Go win.

bungusmaximus · Dec 14, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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