Curse

Death_From_Above · Apr 17, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

Indeed it is... but the sad part is it's not my longest. I've authored a few posts on Nationstates (the game I mentioned that I GM) that would put the above rant to shame. It's gotten to the point now where I usually have no idea how long the damn things are until they actually post. Part of me feels sorry for Death having to read all that

Well before i start i would like to say thank you for that very long post because it must have taken you some time. Reading it was rather intresting i might say and now here comes the comments on it so prepare yourself. Lock up your children, lock up your wifes and hear the message to it thereof

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

I've seen people here all but wish cancer on Gaile or the Devs for the HA changes; and I've heard a lot more of the same in various vents, and in more than one Alliance. Maybe its just my inner Moderator, but I can't stand shit like that and will always speak out against it when given the chance.

Well i would firstly like to say a human has his limits and anet has pushed many above theirs. People havent come here initialy to flame or give anet a nice talking to, many like i have come to give our view points on certain matters and express why such changes have not been profitable. You can see this via my very very early posts. However these vents of frustration started to erupt from the large player base when after giving anet our feed back we basically saw it was put to no use. Ok an example, everyone said bring back 8v8.

Everyone could see 8v8 was better than 6v6. What do anet do, bring kill count? Ignored our requests and reasons for wanting 8v8 back. So now we complain some more and look 9 months down the line we get what we want. Now if im giving you good advice with the many other players. And clearly this is the direction you want to go but instead you choose to muck me around. You think my constructive critism is going to be as constructive as before being i already in most cases know the end result which is anet really belittle it.

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

If you don't care, then why are you playing one? If the content beyond HA doesn't interest you, then why devote so much energy to a game you clearly do not enjoy?

The content boyed pvp does intrest me but not the extent i will come on gw like when ever i can to play it. Pve is an example, i played it, after months finished the campeign, did all bits and bobs ect and by end of the year it was 100 percent done. Now i had got all i wanted out of pve and once in a while i would go and play it but its not what after i finished the campeign and everything else kept me playing the game. After all this i had moved to HA and thats what had kept my attention.

You say if i dont care why am i playing an MMO, well that is because although gws an MMO as i said before. It was promised it would be a different MMO, now i have nothing against MMOS i enjoy them infact, but its the fact this one was promised it would be different which means what regular MMOs do really cant be brought into comparrision with this. I also in fact do or did enjoy guildwars when pvp HA was ownage. For this reason do i devote (not sure how to say this being i really dont but for the sake of understanding) so much energy into gw is because with HA and high level competitive pvp gw was a great game. A fanastic one in fact and knowing that this enjoyment and competitiveness the game had is not fully gone but still has some hope to be retrieved. I find it nessercy to persue it whiles the chance this game can be restored to its former or close to former glory is there.

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

I don't know how far back you're going with this (I didn't start HAing until just over a year ago) but I don't ever remember situations where we had an "ever changing" meta. For the most part, the same three or four builds would dominate until the end of a season or the release of an expansion; and even then most people would be reluctant to change (observe that people still run BoA sins and some occasionally try to rit or IV spike again). Hell, even when Factions came out and all the new skills were released, IWAY and Bspike formed a fairly reliable majority.

Well if memory serves me correct me, if anyone can support me on this point it would be much appreciated.
But we had spirit spammers (aka ranger guys).
We had air spike phase,
we had balanced builds with spiteful spirit phase and like a little bit of hexes. Energy denial phase aka e burn mesmers.
Smiting phase
Warriors with hammers and aftershock/ tigers fury phase.
IWAY
Heavy hex
Blood spike
Balanced builds
Pressure build phase
Interupting phase
Migrane mesmer Phase
Ranger spike phase

And so on. All these things came and went came and went, HA was always ever changing, things never remained the same. Also i take it you mean you started pvping like 2 years ago and not 1? As like HA has been ruind for almost 10 months.

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Originally Posted by Jessyi

I'm going to wait as long as I have to for ANet to fix HA. I don't know or care how, and I no longer care enough to even make suggestions.

See a prime example of how players are getting frustrated because their advice has been ignored and ignored. Players have said it over and over what anet should go but here Jessyi has illistrated it needs to be said again. Anet have ignored player feedback and now they are like *ohhh no ur givin us grief players so we wont listern to you.* Theirs a saying you do the crime you do the time, anet commited a crime by ruining HA so now they must do the time by accepting the grief which their getting for it being they have made little attempt to resolve it or lets say *lower their sentence.*

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

You seem to be saying "Well, without ANet, people wouldn't have lost interest in Guild Wars." Without ANet we wouldn't have had a Guild Wars to lose interest in in the first place. It wouldn't exist without them and regardless of the changes they've made, they deserve some credit. Insulting them will not get you what you want.

What i mean is that if anet never made these changes, aka without anet (doing this) then people would not have lost intrest in guildwars like they have. Please tell me also how i have insulted anet, when i speak i speak the truth hence i therefore believe if i am meerly achknologing you are something then how am i going out of my way to insult them.

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Originally Posted by Nadia Roark

All I'm trying to tell you people is that we can relay our criticism to ArenaNet without insulting the devs, and that making names like "This Game Blows" and "Faile Gay" and "Ghey Le Grey" are not the tactics that will help us get what we want. Imagine my amusement when I log on here and occasionally see things like "ZOMG WTF ANET IS TEH SUXX AND CANT BALANCE A GAME AND I HOPE THEY DIE IN A CAR FIRE AND OMG WHY ARENT THEY LISTENING 2 MEEEEEE?!!!!?!?!!!!one"

Rofl rofl rofl. Lol what will people come up with next. I guess people are trying different approuches to get anet to listern being they have ignored them so far. 8v8 HA was asked by people for so long and anet could see the majority wanted it yet they still decided to throw a pole to waste some more time. You also had galie making lame comments like oh kill count is a success. This demoralises people as isnt she ment to read the forms. Yet she claims more people like it than hate it.

Fact is, anet cannot run away from problems and refusing to fix a problem because of the grief they are getting is unproffesional. When a bank manager has a angry client he doesnt lock the door and run away going *ewwww im scared,* he still handles the situation. Therefore anet running away from this problem and avioding the HA community will not make the community go away.

The problem will still be there. Fact of the matter is, trying to punish the players who have told anet off because they have been provoked by ignoring their sound advice is just plane stupid so if anet are doing that shameee on them. As at the end of the day, the only way gw and this mess will be fixed is if that problem too is fixed. It seems anet have taken a chefs advice, if its to hot then get out the kicthen.

The Real Roy Keane · Apr 18, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Therefore anet running away from this problem and avioding the HA community will not make the community go away.

If you listen to many of the most vocal posters on this forum you'll understand why Anet might have a hard time taking the HA community seriously.

Randomway Ftw · Apr 18, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

If you listen to many of the most vocal posters on this forum you'll understand why Anet might have a hard time taking the HA community seriously.

Anet caused posters to become vocal. by making moronic changes, starting with 6v6.

Divineshadows · Apr 18, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

Anet caused posters to become vocal. by making moronic changes, starting with 6v6.

So says one of the members of the vocal minority.
The most angry vocal minority whines and posts more than the rest. Fact.
Finding any comfort that the HA format will never be like it was 1 year ago?
Unwind yourself and uninstall please. Detach yourself from this game.

Death_From_Above · Apr 18, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

So says one of the members of the vocal minority.
The most angry vocal minority whines and posts more than the rest. Fact.
Finding any comfort that the HA format will never be like it was 1 year ago?
Unwind yourself and uninstall please. Detach yourself from this game.

Vocal minority, rofl dude you dont know what your on about. Go on guildwars and speak to some players or speak to the ones who have quit and just dont like or cant be bothered to use forms. Randomways gentle compared to these people. If HAs never like it was 1 year ago then it only will show anet sucks even more and give them a worse reputation. Also i wouldnt call randomways remarks as whining but rather the plea of a player who wants a good game to restored to its glory unlike some. You cant refer to someone who is meerly fighting for what is just as whining. Im sure when the bank make a mistake on your balance or something and end up deducting like 10k out for no reason you dont just sit there going ohhh no I apear to have been treated wrongly. Let me just ignore this for the sake of not sounding like im whining. You dont, in the same way just because your not in the possition where the opposition is clearly wrong. Dont make lame judgements or comments to portray those who clearly have common sence and are speaking for a large number whiners.

Im In A Build · Apr 18, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Vocal minority, rofl dude you dont know what your on about. Go on guildwars and speak to some players or speak to the ones who have quit and just dont like or cant be bothered to use forms. Randomways gentle compared to these people. If HAs never like it was 1 year ago then it only will show anet sucks even more and give them a worse reputation. Also i wouldnt call randomways remarks as whining but rather the plea of a player who wants a good game to restored to its glory unlike some. You cant refer to someone who is meerly fighting for what is just as whining. Im sure when the bank make a mistake on your balance or something and end up deducting like 10k out for no reason you dont just sit there going ohhh no I apear to have been treated wrongly. Let me just ignore this for the sake of not sounding like im whining. You dont, in the same way just because your not in the possition where the opposition is clearly wrong. Dont make lame judgements or comments to portray those who clearly have common sence and are speaking for a large number whiners.

wall of words crits you for 4536475869698 dmng

its post like these that make anet not even bother listening to people like you which sadly represent the ignorant masses

Death_From_Above · Apr 18, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Ignorant. Explain please. You seem to have missed a fundemental concept, anet never listerned. Shall we go back 9 months or 10 where posts were nice and long explaining and giving anet wonderful constructive critisim. Never saw anet using any of them.

Im In A Build · Apr 18, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Ignorant. Explain please. You seem to have missed a fundemental concept, anet never listerned. Shall we go back 9 months or 10 where posts were nice and long explaining and giving anet wonderful constructive critisim. Never saw anet using any of them.

give links to said wonderful posts plox

Death_From_Above · Apr 18, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Go search for them there far far far back. Lets look anet has messed us around for months now. Im doing coursework at the moment i dont have time sorry to go look for posts which far back. But just go to the posts from like far back there are many if they have not been deleated. Some 17 pages ect like one was share your thoughts on heros accent ect. Randomways done a couple of very good ones to if i recall, nice construtive critisim based.

Razz L Dazzle · Apr 18, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Im sure when the bank make(s) a mistake on your balance or something and end up deducting like 10k out for no reason you dont just sit there going ohhh no I apear to have been treated wrongly. Let me just ignore this for the sake of not sounding like im whining. You dont, in the same way just because your not in the possition where the opposition is clearly wrong. (Rock on Aristotle). Dont make lame judgements or comments to portray those who clearly have common sence and are speaking for a large number whiners.

Are you trying to claim you have common sense without being able to spell it? That was probably the worst analogy i've ever read please don't become a teacher.

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Go search for them there far far far back. Lets look anet has messed us around for months now. Im doing coursework at the moment i dont have time sorry to go look for posts which far back. (huh? I hope you don't struggle with those 3rd grade hukd on foniks tapes.) "But just go to the posts from like far back" (so eloquent) there are many if they have not been deleated. Some 17 pages ect like one was share your thoughts on heros accent ect.[/B] Randomways done a couple of very good ones to if i recall, [nice construtive critisim based].

I seriously hope your course work is of an elementary nature. I rarely laugh as hard as i just did. I hope to see many more posts from you in the future, and please make them longer as they are truly great reading.

Razz L Dazzle · Apr 18, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Ignorant. Explain please. You seem to have missed a fundemental concept, anet never listerned. Shall we go back 9 months or 10 where posts were nice and long explaining and giving anet wonderful constructive critisim. Never saw anet using any of them.

You're right sir. A-net never listernes to the community. Shame on them.

Death_From_Above · Apr 18, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Its called a typo my friend. If i were to have to proof read every post i read being that i type at a rather fast nature on the forms i would waste alot of time. As long as what i write is legible to you and you understand what word i am trying to covey it is fine. I would love to spend more time looking over and correcting the work as i did originaly but after being demotivated by anet as it clearly seemed they didnt seem to read many of the posts i sort of gave up on it. Also just to enlighten you its not of low standard, if you want the actual grade infact its A*. You know you cant really judge someone by meerly commenting on their typing on the forms. Although you can get an indirect image of what that person may be like in some areas its not entierly accurate and does not always portray there full nature.

And if you wish to see more of my posts in the future, i have many already here take a look at them if you want that way i dont need to repeat myself.

Razz L Dazzle · Apr 18, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Death_From_Above

Its called a typo my friend. If i were to have to proof read every post i read being that i type at a rather fast nature on the forms i would waste alot of time. As long as what i write is legible to you and you understand what word i am trying to covey it is fine. I would love to spend more time looking over and correcting the work as i did originaly but after being demotivated by anet as it clearly seemed they didnt seem to read many of the posts i sort of gave up on it. [B][B]Also just to enlighten you its not of low standard, if you want the actual grade infact its A*. LOL .You know you cant really judge someone by meerly commenting on their typing on the forms. Although you can get an indirect image of what that person may be like in some areas its not entierly accurate and does not always portray there full nature.

And if you wish to see more of my posts in the future, i have many already here take a look at them if you want that way i dont need to repeat myself.

Typo? You can't spell at all my friend or write . Even your short post responding to my criticism was riddled with severe grammar problems. To be honest i can't understand anything you're trying to convey. I'm sure A-Net ignores your sloppy, muddled thoughts as i'm sure the rest of the HA community does.

Death_From_Above · Apr 18, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Ok what ever dude im not bothered, ill leave you to believe what you wanna believe because i have nothing to prove. If all your going to do is actually try have a go at me go ahead. Im not gonna stoop to your level so unless your going to be talking about tombs and the current problems facing it or what can be done to fix it. Then i wont bother replie to your post for i believe this thread is about HA and not me. Funny though how once you are calm and trying to make progress you get some dude who comes around trying to wind you up though isnt it.

Nurse With Wound · Apr 18, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Internet vs Death From Above drama is ftl.. MRITE? ( hi Mendes ! )