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Nurse With Wound · Aug 29, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by minor

Seeing had andrew has said the whole thing has been canceled, how about a lock on this plz Nurse?

As Andrew said that proposals he submited are no longer valid, and developers will come up with other solutions I don't think there's need to debating them anymore. However, until new ones will be posted, I will leave this thread open for further discussion about possible solutions to Glad's Title, TA/RA. I'll lock this one, when Andrew will post new proposals.

Master Ketsu · Aug 29, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by minor

Seeing had andrew has said the whole thing has been canceled, how about a lock on this plz Nurse?

Andrew said they were coming up with new proposals, not scraping the idea.

And I think its still worth it to discuss the idea of whether or not the title needs any change. Even if proposal one is being scrapped, its still worth it for players to voice their opinions on the glad title and whether or not they would want it to become easier.

erk · Aug 29, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

As Andrew said that proposals he submited are no longer valid, and developers will come up with other solutions I don't think there's need to debating them anymore. However, until new ones will be posted, I will leave this thread open for further discussion about possible solutions to Glad's Title, TA/RA. I'll lock this one, when Andrew will post new proposals.

That sounds reasonable.

I have an issue with the current situation where the first player in an RA team to get 10 wins, forces the whole team into TA, which is fine I enjoy TA, but it usually results in the breakup of the team leaving everyone who has not achieved their Glad point to fend for themselves in a new team. The number of points I have missed out on in this manner could easily have got me another level of Gladiator title. I wonder if something as simple as a chat message, similar to the skill point message, saying that X has achieved a Gladiator point, might make people pay attention a bit more and not leave the team in such a hurry?

Drinky · Sep 05, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21

tbh, a nice way to prevent leavers is giving RA more prestige, like Hero Battles got, a regular herobattles match used to start with a conversation:

"Hi"
"Hi"
"Roll?"
* Someone rolled 30 of 100.
* Somone Else rolled 10 of 100.
* Someone Else has resigned
"gg"

Leavers in RA are the same, they just want fast glad points, they want to get a team with a "perfect" combo, a monk or rt to keep the team up, some melee some casters. Surely we dont want RA to "matchmake" teams, whats the fun of that?

However, put all teams that get a gladpoint in obsmode, this would make it pretty much cool to be on obsmode with a really "bad" setup (4 warriors etc), ppl would probebly be playing better, also make remove the "now we going to TA bcuz 3 people has 10 wins and 1 guy have only 9, so now they all leave and that poor 1 guy looses 10th" that makes ppl leave if your team has 4 wins and you 1. The gladpoint itself should acctully occur sooner, so you are encouraged to keep playing, thats why i like a glad point every 5th win and 2 more at 10th.

Shuuda · Sep 05, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by Drinky

tbh, a nice way to make PvP better is giving TA more prestige.

Fixed, because it's for the greater good of TA.

erk · Sep 12, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Anyone heard any more about the proposed changes? This thread's been quite for a week, and so has the offical wiki page on the topic. I presume things cooled off a bit due to the GW:EN release.

Sab · Sep 12, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

No news is good news.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 12, 2007, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by Sab

No news is good news.

WTB NEWS = 1 ecto

red orc · Sep 13, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

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Originally Posted by Sab

No news is good news.

Maybe they learned from the last time and they are not going to usk us, but force us a change, which can be quite problematic and will kill RA for the current players but will bring on many from PVE.

Keithark · Sep 13, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26

Otpion 1 FTW. I like the idea better of 5 wins, but any time you have to have a streak to get a point there will be leavers if the streak is 3 wins, 5, 10, or 100 you will have people leave..but with 1 the chances are much less likely. Plus everyone is this thread is crying about the title being easy to farm and noobs will get the same title as they have, then they turn around and talk about how they PvP for the challenge, yea right! Half of you prolly got the title when you could farm the challenge for it.

erk · Sep 13, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by Keithark

Otpion 1 FTW. I like the idea better of 5 wins, but any time you have to have a streak to get a point there will be leavers if the streak is 3 wins, 5, 10, or 100 you will have people leave..but with 1 the chances are much less likely. Plus everyone is this thread is crying about the title being easy to farm and noobs will get the same title as they have, then they turn around and talk about how they PvP for the challenge, yea right! Half of you prolly got the title when you could farm the challenge for it.

The title will be meaningless, like the PvE grind and HA titles, if it's a point per win. The consecutive wins requirement is the best thing about the Gladiator title. I would certainly not like to see it any lower than 5 consecutive wins for a Gladiator point. Leavers can be controlled by other methods.

If they are going to keep the auto advancement to TA after so many RA wins, then I think that aspect should remain at 10 consecutive wins, to hopefully make sure there is a bit of talent in the teams that advance to play against TA teams.

Andrew Patrick · Sep 13, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Soon people, soon.

This was put on the back burner in preparation for GW:EN but now that it is released, the designers have been testing and tweaking the latest installment of the title. As soon as I know whats up I will share it with you.

erk · Sep 13, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Soon people, soon.

This was put on the back burner in preparation for GW:EN but now that it is released, the designers have been testing and tweaking the latest installment of the title. As soon as I know whats up I will share it with you.

Thanks Andrew, it's good to see your still with us, there was a deathly silence for a few weeks there

Orange Milk · Sep 14, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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the designers have been testing and tweaking the latest installment of the title

As far as we know they never tested any of the other "proposals"

Though twice the title description changed, I suppose that could have been a glitch from them testing on their side.

testing and tweaking tells me they have an idea in mind that they are sold on. Plus it says "installment" singular, not plural. I hoping they present us with the idea prior to it going live like they did this time.

Isileth · Sep 14, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

the designers have been testing and tweaking the latest installment of the title.

What worries me is that they still think the soloution to leavers is to change the title. As much as its nice to see them take an interest in the problem, I would have hoped from the replies they would have seen that it isnt the way to go about it.

DutchSmurf · Sep 14, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Isileth

What worries me is that they still think the soloution to leavers is to change the title. As much as its nice to see them take an interest in the problem, I would have hoped from the replies they would have seen that it isnt the way to go about it.

If you actually read the thread you would know that the changing of the title has nothing to do with leavers. Actually, they are making a system just to deal with leavers. And that new system won't be linked to the title at all.

Isileth · Sep 14, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf

If you actually read the thread you would know that the changing of the title has nothing to do with leavers. Actually, they are making a system just to deal with leavers. And that new system won't be linked to the title at all.

Well apart from leavers I can see no reason for the title to be changed. Except people wanting it to be easier to obtain of course.

Please also note that this doesnt mean I think the problem could be solved by changing the title, just that its my impression that its the reason the title is being changed, simply because there is no other valid reason for it to be required to change.

erk · Sep 15, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Well apart from leavers I can see no reason for the title to be changed. Except people wanting it to be easier to obtain of course.

Please also note that this doesnt mean I think the problem could be solved by changing the title, just that its my impression that its the reason the title is being changed, simply because there is no other valid reason for it to be required to change.

As pointed out elsewhere in the thread, the leaver problem is not unique to RA, it's in FA, AB etc. and does not bother TA, so changing the Glad title as a work around would be a poor solution to the overall lever problem.

As for the 10 vs 5 wins, I can see the reason for it, to make the lower levels of the tile more accessible, it takes a fair bit of luck to get 10 consecutive in RA, not so bad in TA. Doesn't bother me either way. I was up to 1.8mil Kurzkick faction when they made it twice the reward for donations, making it so easy for people to get titles now, so I have already seen that impact/disappointment. Though I did stop playing AB!

I just thought of one thing in favor of 5 wins per Glad point. People don't load or GW crashes and doesn't reconnect with monotonous regularity. That can easily end a good run.