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Symbol · Sep 30, 2007, 04:54 AM // 04:54

Allow people to leave without penalty after the two minute mark. By then it should be obvious if you're in a hopeless match, and it will still prevent the tards who drop as soon as they see they have no monk on their team.

Byron · Sep 30, 2007, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Isn't that the nature of Random Arenas? You have just as much of a chance of going up against a team lacking defense or lacking offense as you have being on that team. It's the nature of the beast when you play in a random battle.

It would be good if folk went into the battle with the intention of fun only. But you and I know full well that we're looking for success first and fun second. So, to be safe, gamers bring farming builds and/or tanks. In turn, this "randomness" continues to make the arenas less random. lol irony?

I'm half glad that TA play is encouraged, though. I guess some patience is called for.

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Originally Posted by Miriandel

You also could have different RAs, one for noobs, one for rank 1+, rank 3+ and so on.

No, new players shouldn't be further discouraged. It's bad enough to get rofflestomped with their pve builds in RA.

Legendary Shiz · Sep 30, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I want to puke in anets mouth after the whole anti-leaver thing.

It's pretty sad when I fear for my account to rage an RA/AB match because I need to go guest for gvg.

NeHoMaR · Sep 30, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

Heroes>RA?

In all seriousness I see more "invinci" builds coming along E/D, Mo/W, Rt/W, A/Me(Shadow Form), and it's getting ridiculous. I won't be RA'ing seriously anymore. No science to it.

Well, HB is just running and running capturing, and forcing players of use R/P or any other stand-alone hard to kill hero; and assassins for exploit heroes AI. Sometimes something that look like a obvious fix, end making things worst in a not expected way; that happened with HB forcing you to capture ALL shrines and DON'T fight.

HB is 99% (Assassin, R/P, Rt/N, Monk) or (Monk, R/P, R/P, R/P) // R/P can be changed by anything hard to kill by assassins, plan and simple. That isn't meta, is just a chess game when everybody play with exactly the same pieces. Please ArenaNet, make us fight in HB (making people to CREATE hundreds of different builds)

So, where is the on-topic comment here? well, the bold part above is.

red orc · Sep 30, 2007, 09:31 AM // 09:31

GG Anet,
you changed RA forever.
Now we have 8 districts full of RAers when we had 2-3 before.
Pro RAers having nightmare teams will leave RA for TA and HA.
TA and HA will have more players than before.
RA will be left for PVEers bringing their invinci-dervish, shadow form sins, and PVE monks to fight each other.

BlackSephir · Sep 30, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Maybe this will teach people to bring snares and ench removal in RA.

Shmanka · Sep 30, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

So, where is the on-topic comment here? well, the bold part above is.

That one "/Resign" is easier to obtain then 4 of them. Trust me you haven't seen enough warriors use [skill]Live Vicariously[/skill] yet. All ANet obviously did was make the distinction of good and bad players more relevant now, also more hated.

This is one of the very many reasons I supported 1 point per win in RA. No monk teams have a chance, inexperienced people would make builds that delt damage, not abuse the timer, or their own health bar. It's pretty simple you don't see people rage TA/HA/GvG as much, why? It was the format IMO. No monk teams had a near impossible chance at obtaining points required for titles. Also the monks that would do RA would rage unless there was 1-2 Assasins/Etc.

For every 9 wins I had in the old system, if it had counted as 10 wins I would have been r4 gladiator on two different accounts.
Under this system it is quite easier to get the points... in theory. Now E/D just need to stall you for 5 matches instead of 10, Shadow Form sins just need to run around half as much, and monks are bonding with Mending for the hell of it.

You can't convince me for a second you do RA seriously, it was a convinient quick format of PvP. Now what is it?
So like I had said Hero Battles>RA for pure convinience now.

Dzan · Sep 30, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

For every 9 wins I had in the old system, if it had counted as 10 wins I would have been r4 gladiator on two different accounts.
Under this system it is quite easier to get the points... in theory. Now E/D just need to stall you for 5 matches instead of 10, Shadow Form sins just need to run around half as much, and monks are bonding with Mending for the hell of it.

It takes 15 wins now to equal 10 wins before. What were you complaining about again?

danilovic · Sep 30, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

I haven't read the thread, so I may be repeating other people's statements.

However,
This update is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing joke. All it does is promoting n00bs with N/W sword builds, warriors with daggers, wammos etc. Why shouldn'r you be allowed to ragequit when one guy is afk, one didn't load, and the last one is overextending? I did, and hoped my next team would be better. I got two bad monks, and a necro "damage dealer" that didn't use his Ressurect with me being dead for 30 seconds. I raged again, and my next team got owned, so I raged, and I got banned for 10 minutes.

My point is, this update fills the arenas with n00bs with incredibly gimped bars, and I it is not tempting to give it another try, because i know what's waiting.

African War Lord · Sep 30, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by danilovic

My point is, this update fills the arenas with n00bs

and rids them of leavers like you, take your pick. this system is definitely
better , but some of the ideas in this thread should be added to avoid stalemate games and we're good to go.

1. 2 minute leave
2. allowed to leave if someone else leaves, or doesn't load.

_SiO_ · Sep 30, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

the glad title turned now definitely into total grind... good work anet...
g6 = 1864 glads... rofl rofl rofl
and the multiplier (6) is joke...

BlackSephir · Sep 30, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Yeah, I prefer being with noobish W/E flare spammer than pathetic leaver so change for good

Turbobusa · Sep 30, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by red orc

Random Anet bashing

Give solutions, help them then.You know devs are reading these boards, give them ideas, or at least say why you find it bad, give your own experience, and stop being a whinny little boy.

I'll wait to know how they handle all the leech/language/behavior reports to comment.

Gladiator change. Well it obviously easier to obtain glad points. So far i've only met nice people so I don't know if people leave at 5 consecutive... But the "meta" changed, it has become the assassin arena as said earlier in the thread.

Now we need skill adjustements. gimmick needs to die.

Greedy Gus · Sep 30, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Miriandel

You also could have different RAs, one for noobs, one for rank 1+, rank 3+ and so on.

I think the more apparent solution would be having two different solo-entry arenas: One for people who want random teammates, to battle other random 4-man teams. And another for people who want as close to a TA experience as possible in order to improve their own skill or to avoid pure noobiness, but they just don't have guildmates/teammates online for TA or prefer the "push a button and play PvP" quick solo-entry.

How to create this other arena would have to be figured out, whether it's the game trying to match people together in a more balanced way (one monk per team, whatever), letting people leave & try going back in, etc.

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Originally Posted by Miriandel

There are so many cool things to do that i still can't believe you forced people to play the way they don't want to play. It's really a lack of imagination or commitment, IMHO.

QFT. There are clearly at least two very different general playstyle preferences for a solo-entry arena, and any changes that introduce restrictions are not very optimal.

Div · Sep 30, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Maybe this will teach people to bring snares and ench removal in RA.

Yeah, so now my bar will look like this:

ZB
RoF
Guardian
Draw
Mending touch
Veil
Drain enchant
Imagined Burden

Thanks.

moko · Oct 01, 2007, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Yeah, so now my bar will look like this:

ZB
RoF
Guardian
Draw
Mending touch
Veil
Drain enchant
Imagined Burden

Thanks.

nice i like it actually <3

(lol)

Riotgear · Oct 01, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Yeah, so now my bar will look like this:

ZB
RoF
Guardian
Draw
Mending touch
Veil
Drain enchant
Imagined Burden

Thanks.

I put Distracting Shot on my monk. "Just in case."

karunpav · Oct 01, 2007, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Distracting Shot is for noobs. Just bring Hammer Bash and KD them.

Wolala Wagaga · Oct 01, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

seriously... u got get the dishonor status after TWO rages, and you are only disallow to enter the PvP arenas for TEN minutes..

before ppl start calling me noob/etc i am rank 5 glad, (rank 4 prior update ;P) and i think this is a good change in RA for the non-PvP experienced players to get better at the game (PvP side).

If you want a nice team, and you think you are SO pro, go to TA and i am sure you can get into any teams you like.

I still remember when i first hit RA with my warrior, i am not ashamed to admit i was one of those 'Wammos' who hav half the skill bar with healing skills and not doing enough dmg... however, after observing, losing battles, you start to change your builds and improve on the game.

i do know how furstrating to see noobs doing stupid things and costing the game in RA, for me, i just laugh at it and move on, its actually entertaining once in awhile (does happen pretty often though)... if you cant stand it, i think TA is a better home.

peace out

Legendary Shiz · Oct 01, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by Wolala Wagaga

seriously... u got get the dishonor status after TWO rages, and you are only disallow to enter the PvP arenas for TEN minutes..

before ppl start calling me noob/etc i am rank 5 glad, (rank 4 prior update ;P) and i think this is a good change in RA for the non-PvP experienced players to get better at the game (PvP side).

If you want a nice team, and you think you are SO pro, go to TA and i am sure you can get into any teams you like.

I still remember when i first hit RA with my warrior, i am not ashamed to admit i was one of those 'Wammos' who hav half the skill bar with healing skills and not doing enough dmg... however, after observing, losing battles, you start to change your builds and improve on the game.

i do know how furstrating to see noobs doing stupid things and costing the game in RA, for me, i just laugh at it and move on, its actually entertaining once in awhile (does happen pretty often though)... if you cant stand it, i think TA is a better home.

peace out

I love how he has to stroke his epeen and announce his glad title to us, so that when we read his noob comments we realize he's a noob with a title instead of just regular plain ole noob.

amiright?