Curse

Plissken · Mar 08, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36

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Originally Posted by CassiusDrehyg

AB players are scrubs and AI controlled robots that want to get their feet wet in PvP, but are failing miserably because of their inability to think outside of the box. AB players are under the impression that kiting is the worst sin imaginable.

When they suck, they cry "1v1 OMFG NOOB" as if 1v1 actually means anything, and then if you agree to duel them, they bring a BoA sin. I like to pile them with melee hate with a mesmer and watch them cry.

gg

Not gonna comment your assumption about ABers being scrubs.It's a point of view even though I disagree totally.But what I'm not gonna let go is not everyone is a AI-controlled robot.And many players I met both on Luxon or Kurzick side are actually good AB players (Speaking of wich...Hello,Irukandji

) that know how to run and eventually win an AB game.The skills and team efforts needed are not less than those needed to win RA/TA/HA/GvG games.Just like those AB is a unique PvP environment with its own rules and some people might like this environment better than others (12vs12 ftw!).Generalizing like you did and failing to understand why some people would go there daily to have a share of pvp,shows "inability to think out of the box".

bungusmaximus · Mar 08, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43

So true, it differs a great eal from time to time, you never know whats going to happen when the gates open, that's what I love about AB. Yesterday was noob-rush-hour though. Saltspray again, i LOVE that map. I held off 10 people with a team of 3 (1 member d-c). Why do people always mob the bridge? it's a recipe for loss. For 3/4 of the game there were 10 people doing nothing (except getting killed by me and my teammates).

Undressed · Mar 08, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

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Originally Posted by Amadei

Excuse me? You're the only railing at the people in the thread, calling them... what was it again? Ah, yes, "pityful". There's no one forcing you to read this, and I'm sorry my sarcasm was lost on you.

So I have to join the ranks before I criticize? Giving yourself the illusion of being immune to it is another reason I pity you. Maybe now you get the autism part.

gee gee

riojin · Mar 08, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Irukandji

... it's just funny as hell when another sin starts to turn the game into a personal competiton with me.....

it is funny as hell. when im a sin in ab i usually run flashing blades to counter them. i dont take it any further than that because it just leads you in circles (because some sins use expose defences to counter flashing blades)

now i dont chase people (ie other sins) to prove im better but if someone wants to case me ill have a go.

funny thing happened a few hours ago in ab, i was running a ranger and got the same thing. thing was the ranger didnt get over losing to me that the whole match he chased me to keep trying to 1 on 1 kill me. i just kept running i dont ab to 1 on 1 people. he did get me in the end though not that i care. i did atleast 10 times every ab doesnt matter who does it.

i just wish people would just follow the objectives in ab so it makes it more challenging and fun. it seems most games i play in ab these days is always a slaughter. we either beat them with no trouble or they beat us with no trouble. its just because there are so many people who dont play ab properly and when they notice theyre losing just leave or go afk to leech whatever faction theyll get from the loss and not bother trying to make a comeback.

bungusmaximus · Mar 08, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by riojin

i just wish people would just follow the objectives in ab so it makes it more challenging and fun. it seems most games i play in ab these days is always a slaughter. we either beat them with no trouble or they beat us with no trouble. its just because there are so many people who dont play ab properly and when they notice theyre losing just leave or go afk to leech whatever faction theyll get from the loss and not bother trying to make a comeback.

So true, the best games are always the ones in which you win/lose wit a max. difference of 50-100 points. Then you know that people gave it all they got and the battle gets exciting and tense. If the score is 200-10 after 5 minutes it's just dull. Worst is when you get base-camped early in the game already, the theres nothing left but getting killed all the time.

Plissken · Mar 12, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

So true, the best games are always the ones in which you win/lose wit a max. difference of 50-100 points. Then you know that people gave it all they got and the battle gets exciting and tense. If the score is 200-10 after 5 minutes it's just dull. Worst is when you get base-camped early in the game already, the theres nothing left but getting killed all the time.

No there's something funnier to do than getting killed...Get you toon naked and /dance by the base defender.Not gonna win you the game anyhow,but at least you get your fair share of laughters about the people getting pissed off because of the loss and/or opponent's insults

Eroth · Mar 14, 2007, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

My question is why is this idea so popular? Why would people want to 1v1 in a massive 12v12 + npc army fight when it's almost impossible to find a place to do said duel?

Every seen movies like Troy, or for that matter an movie that has armies fighting with swords and stuff? Remember how the big people on the story always have a ring around them when they fight? Well some noobs think this applies to them. It's more or less for glory,fun, a fix to boredum, or b/c he's the neighbor that hates you and wants to kill you multiple times (who'd of thought?)

But, as for the "only Luxons do it" is a bad misconception. In etrarn. last night I was playing my custom Rt Spike build when out of the blue comes a prision assassin. I was between the ranger and ele base and no one from my side was in site so I hunkered down to fight. I only had bloodsong up a few feet behind me so I was set. He popped, I healed, getting rid of the conditions, and then proceded to return the favor of trying to be killed. It took me all of 5 seconds (I have quick spells) to kill him. As soon as he died I saw this:

Sin: OMFG!!! I'D KICK YOUR RT ASS IN 1V1 IF YOU'D STOP HIDING BEHIND YOUR SPIRITS!!
me: I only had one up...
me: and I did just 1v1 you...
me: and won badly.

he then proceded to try an kill me again. Failing 17 more times. yes, I started counting after number 5.

Shendaar · Mar 15, 2007, 03:16 AM // 03:16

You just gotta love those idiots that keeps trying to kill you over and over because you killed them first. Skill is important, but there are always some builds that your build just won't be able to beat no matter how hard you try.

bungusmaximus · Mar 15, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Shendaar

You just gotta love those idiots that keeps trying to kill you over and over because you killed them first. Skill is important, but there are always some builds that your build just won't be able to beat no matter how hard you try.

Yeh, something like trying to 1vs1 a mesmer with an ele :P

Molock · Mar 17, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I'm an ele... and when I start attacking a sin... and he dies... he asks me to 1v1 him because I had "back-up"... isn't that the point of ab..

samcobra · Mar 17, 2007, 11:10 PM // 23:10

the point of AB, IIRC, is to have tanks and nukers so the mobs don't break aggro and you can kill them fast. Too bad they don't have drops, otherwise, people could farm the mobs with their dolyak signet, mending, healing hands builds all day and get rich.
No matter though, the gladiator's defense is what REALLY saves you in alliance battle. Like come on, its the best pvp skill in the game, right? And alliance battle SURE IS PVP, right? there are NO PVE BUILDS IN AB, right?

yea, keep dreaming..

NekoZ · Mar 19, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I got a few 1v1 situations on my ranger, quite fun to be honest. Won everytime, few sins included, except once. Don't know what the guy was running, but his sin destroyed me lol. It's enjoyable seeing one guy stray away and just going after 'em.

Isil`Zha · Mar 20, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Saying all players in ABs are scrubs is a gross, sweeping generalization that is simply flat-out wrong. That's not to say that there aren't a lot of scrubs, because there are - but there's plenty of good players in there too. There is one way to tell who the scrubs are - mobbing. Mobbing is a sure-fire way to lose horribly, unless the other team is doing it too....

Which is kind of funny in how me and my friends exploit the scrubs that mob - since they are scrubs, they're also not the best of players, and I don't know how many times my team of 4 has held up 8+ of the opposing team for 5 minutes or longer at a shrine or the middle of the battlefield (because instead of going somewhere else, these people run straight back to where we're at when killed) while the remaining 2 teams of 4 on our team can run around and capture points much faster than the 4 (or less) remaining people on the opposing team.

Likewise, we'll just ignore stupid builds like Stoneflesh-elementalists (unless we have something that can dispose of them quickly, like enchant removal) and laugh off their "damage output."

Mostly I too play AB because really, it's just fun. Especially when both teams are competent and don't just mob the entire game (like those people that think we should spend all our time making sure that we have the resurrection shrine(s) over all other shrines.) Yeah there's bad players that a) don't know how to play AB, and/or b) run terrible builds - usually the bad players don't know how to play AB and run lousy builds.

I always find, especially with my friends/guildies, that I end up taking leadership of my team, and am constantly having to change our strategy/direction, ect. If our team is mobbing in one direction, I'll try to have us go the reverse direction to cap more shrines faster. Mostly it's just finding the nearest shrine that needs to be captured and none of the other parties of our team are doing it - and instead of blindly charging with a decision, if another team gets there first, or the entire enemy mob goes that way I'll change our target/direction - cause it'll waste time trying to take a shrine with another group since you can't have more than +4 on the capture speed, and of course it wastes more time trying to kill off/fight an entire mob for one - unless of course my group of 4 can just hold-up/stall a mob - for it to be worth it we really should be holding up more people than us. That way the rest of our team has an advantage in capping as they'll have far fewer opponents to deal with - sometimes we abandon that quickly when we notice that the 8 others on our team are sitting there fighting the 4 of the other over the rez shrine and aren't doing anything useful...

TheLordOfBlah · Mar 21, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

Expunge Enchant ftw. But ya, Tanking is dead but people still do the art out of laziness.

Tanking in AB (or ANY form of PVP) was never ALIVE.

Theres no such thing as a tank in PVP...

ghostkai · Mar 21, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

Tanking in AB (or ANY form of PVP) was never ALIVE.

Theres no such thing as a tank in PVP...

not exactly true, it's defiently had it's uses in AB, i run a dual attunement earth tank every once in a while, depending how drunk i am.... and it's alot of fun watching 8-12 players trying to tazke you down, almost like i'm insulting THEM personally by the fact that they can't kill me. then of course u get ur anti-enchanters/interrupters/dazers every now and then, and thats always a nice feeling tbh, to know that not EVERYONE is a retard in AB.

personally i run my own temple strike build, eats burst sins alive and most builds actually, but if i get blocked or w/e i don't really care, i just move on, times awasting

Zolderick · Mar 25, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

BoA sins are the bes for 1v1

Ronin Rangerin · Mar 29, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

I get flamed in basically every ab I play in for running away. Strange that some people will not even think that target swaping is an option, and 4-5 of them will chase me half way across the map, through most of my teamates, to the ele shrine where theyll get orbed to death, then call me a noob.

multi killer n l · Apr 18, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

I'll admit AB has provided one very entertaining format of PvP, I really enjoy the sheer pandemonium of 2 armies killing each other in cold blood. Since I use my Sin exclusively for AB, I especially enjoy slitting the throat of a lone Luxon running around or helping my healbots being threatened by a mob. One thing that tends to confuse me is a concept that apparently harbors honor and glory (imo, so don't flame me) amongst the Luxons:

The 1v1 Fight.

It never seems to fail, anytime I kill a warrior or most other non-caster classes out of nowhere I always hear at least one "wtf wuss! I would own j00 in 1v1" or the less used "Quit snaring you wussy sin and solo me!" alot when I am striding across the jade sea. My question is why is this idea so popular? Why would people want to 1v1 in a massive 12v12 + npc army fight when it's almost impossible to find a place to do said duel? And why do Wamos (sorry to stereotype) most of all feel the need to duel an Assassin?

most people want to duel some1 to show off there strenght wich you cant do really much (of course you can if you kill much anymies on your own) but thats hard and some people think there good so they wanna show in a 1 vs 1.

lennymon · Apr 18, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Lol, I was playing a beastmastery build last week and my pet (Bubba the dire hyena) was chasing some MM off my radar, and poof Bubba died. I ressed, and poof... I thought to myself OH @#$! he chased the necro into his home base and now I'm without offense.
Luckily it only took 4 more resses with 'heel' mode on to inch Bubba outa 'jail'

Aoe does awesome -some places- but anywhere a beastmaster can get height advantage he'll kill one after another, while kiting

, from radar range.

Jeff Highwind · Apr 18, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Why did this thread get bumped? lennymon had a interesting story but still... =\