Curse

Aera · Dec 07, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Woot! Just got 17 keys, in all enthusiasm I opened the chest.

2 Creme Bulee
1 Ritualist Tome
1 Flaming Water

...yeah I just sold the rest of the keys.

A friend of mine got some gold drops, lucky him!

Although my drops weren't satisfying, the fact that we can actually do something with our faction now, IS

What do you all think?

TheOneMephisto · Dec 07, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

It's really bad? They should make a system that caters towards high-end PvPers that actually have tons of excess faction to spend, not some chest that drops crappy PvE items.

BlackSephir · Dec 07, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by Aera

2 Creme Bulee
1 Ritualist Tome
1 Flaming Water

All very useful for pvp players?

Quote:

They should make a system that caters towards high-end PvPers that actually have tons of excess faction to spend, not some chest that drops crappy PvE items

Yeah, they should.

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16

Other than flames of balthazar, what could they give for PvP players that someone who not rant about. This isn't so bad for people like me who do PvE and PvP, but the fact that I do both must make me somekind of freak show in the eyes of "leet" PvPers.

I must flee now, as I forsee the Attack of the 50ft Rantzillas.

/runforlife

Riotgear · Dec 07, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Guild hall changes.

Armor and weapon skins.

Guild and guest invites.

Any of those would have been better.

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

Guild hall changes.

Armor and weapon skins.

Guild and guest invites.

Any of those would have been better.

You forgot pets.

BlackSephir · Dec 07, 2007, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Other than flames of balthazar, what could they give for PvP players that someone who not rant about. This isn't so bad for people like me who do PvE and PvP, but the fact that I do both must make me somekind of freak show in the eyes of "leet" PvPers.

I must flee now, as I forsee the Attack of the 50ft Rantzillas.

/runforlife

Meh, I do pve and pvp too. But you earn FB by pvp-ing so you'd expect stuff for your pvp characters: skins, pets, etc.

Thomas.knbk · Dec 07, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

It's good. It encourages PvE-ers to get into PvP.

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Meh, I do pve and pvp too. But you earn FB by pvp-ing so you'd expect stuff for your pvp characters: skins, pets, etc.

Those things would have been great, and should still be added with this chest as well, if those things alone were added, people would be complaining a few days later on how they have nothing else to spend points.

/spotsagiantwhinersaurcomingandrunstosafety

kvndoom · Dec 07, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

W/Mo LFG Nameless chest run, 6/8 need 2 monks!!!

Here's the problem. For PVP newbies, the faction should be spent on skill/item unlocks, not on keys. This makes PVP a part of "the economy," which is NOT good for PVP as a whole. I don't doubt that the Q&A forum will soon have topics concerning the quickest place to farm Balth Faction.

shoogi · Dec 07, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

It's good. It encourages PvE-ers to get into PvP.

Not really, because the value of the drops from this chest is much smaller than the value of the drops that they get from PvE.

Value of drops should be increased (take out stuff like cakes and alcohol), or the faction cost of a key should be lowered to the 2-3k area.

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

That is a good point, erm.... Keys for people with UAX (all skills unlcoked) only prehaps. And take out the lame drops in return.

Robster Lobster · Dec 07, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

It's good. It encourages PvE-ers to get into PvP.

But it doesn't provide any incentive to TA or GvG over RA, which isn't anywhere near as good.

Iotan · Dec 07, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Robster Lobster

But it doesn't provide any incentive to TA or GvG over RA, which isn't anywhere near as good.

Well the incentive would be to get more faction per win (at least for GvG). Also the hardcore farmers might want to get in on the new fad of opening a poor-quality chest and actually discover that they enjoy PvP. Sure this is HIGHLY unlikely but at least it may happen.

Also like many have said this update is quite underwhelming but I've seen Anet mess up much worse...

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by Robster Lobster

But it doesn't provide any incentive to TA or GvG over RA, which isn't anywhere near as good.

I see this more as a way of advertising PvP to PvEers, those that don't like PvP, and just RA for the chest, they suffer wasting time on something they don't enjoy to end up with a chest that may drop crap, which is funny from my viewpoint. The higher up you go, the more chests you could get.

Dur · Dec 07, 2007, 02:05 PM // 14:05

It's not really our problem what other people do with their faction. If they really want to PvP seriously, they would first bother getting the skills and unlocks, kvndoom. Also, I don't see how PvP will become part of "the economy", since, as others mentioned, the value of the drops is pretty small. And even if it does become a part of "the economy", it'd be a good thing, since PvE guilds would start GvGing and HAing.

Orange Milk · Dec 07, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Yeah, if it's to encourage PvEers to get into PvP then its a fail plan. They will just RA for hours and hours, get like 2 glad points tops, soak up 5k BF and get a key. They won't use the faction to upgrade their account in skills/equiptment like they should to get better at PvP.

For high end PvPers its fail, cause they dont want/need PvE junk and goodies.

But hey, at least I don't have to buy tourney tokens any more.

I got:
yuletide tonic
Firewater
some kinda cake thing
A req 12 sheild
req 9 20/20 +30 %15 in a stance Hooked Daggers
req 10 Soul reaping Bleached Skull that +30 always and 20% Daze Reduction

And I could careless about any of it

Shuuda · Dec 07, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Which is why it would be better if keys were for people with UAX only.

xx hells paladin xx · Dec 07, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29

I think the chest is a pretty stupid idea.If it does make pve'ers wanna pvp they will open the chest one time and get crap and get pissed off and go back to farming

bungusmaximus · Dec 07, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

I hope this change doesn't breed tons of PvP-ers without unlocks because they squandered their precious balthazar on gold. For me the update is a godsend because I'm currently tailoring my PvE toons for use in PvP. PvP > farming, so I just keep PvP-ing and get goodies at the same time.

If people really want to get in harder forms of PvP over RA and AB they will do so anyways, chest or no chest.