Curse

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 10, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Whats more annoying to you, the Migraine/frustration, or the Powerblock blackout, or the MoR diversion

Paddatoochie · Sep 10, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Well the good thing about Migraine is that preveiling can stop it and you just need to recast it after fifteen second or whatever.

MoR is a lot more constant, with Diversion every six seconds, aswell as duel enchant removal and Shame, so preveiling only really works when you first enter battle, and not even though mostly. So yeah this one.

Power block blackout isn't too bad because it requires them to get close to you which can often screw themselves over.

However with a good team you should be able to stop the mesmer at least from casting so who cares.

moko · Sep 10, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

i'm not dumb enough to let someone pblock me that easily.

migraine is poo anyways.

mor dom..meh who cares, mor illusion annoys me more because my warriors are frenzying through inep and clumsiness and i have to heal it up.

but yes, mor i guess, or a really random echo blackout lol ^_^ (hi to you if you read this :P)

urania · Sep 10, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

migraine/frustration. simply because either of them can shut u down completely and u cant really remove both with a single preveil - especially if they chain them (thought same can be applied for a mor shutdown to a certain degree) =p

unlike with diversion and shame that are easily interruptable, frustration can slip through and still does the same job as migraine with the extra damage added on interrupts.

and moko, you can get powerblocked on guardian easily, if you dont expect the mesmer to be a powerblocker. ~~

but somehow it really depends on the opponents' build to say which one hurts more.
in a degen build, migraine/frustr is gonna hurt more because you wont be able to get through a single ZB if the mesmer has any clue what they're doing (unless you get lucky with halfed casts on your 40/40 set), in balanced spike build shutdown with shame/diversion is gonna hurt more.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 11, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Well Mokone you usually dont find out its a PB until your on the ground xD

I saw a guy from gank running a good PD blackout and dang a blackout with a warrior ontop of him = 1 dead monk xD

However i have found only 1 way to stop the annoying mesmers and moreso hex casters in general, hex breaker ftw ^^

urania · Sep 11, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10

hex breaker is fine...till there is a necro on the other team to break it for the mesmer. a covered preveil is fine, as long as you can afford it, but otherwise one just has to count on the ranger/pd mesmer to interrupt diversion/shame/migr/w/e.

also, any smart mesmers will just lay off you as soon as they see you're using hb.

not to mention you're in a really bad position vs a full physical team then.

moko · Sep 11, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by urania

migraine/frustration. simply because either of them can shut u down completely and u cant really remove both with a single preveil - especially if they chain them (thought same can be applied for a mor shutdown to a certain degree) =p

unlike with diversion and shame that are easily interruptable, frustration can slip through and still does the same job as migraine with the extra damage added on interrupts.

and moko, you can get powerblocked on guardian easily, if you dont expect the mesmer to be a powerblocker. ~~

but somehow it really depends on the opponents' build to say which one hurts more.
in a degen build, migraine/frustr is gonna hurt more because you wont be able to get through a single ZB if the mesmer has any clue what they're doing (unless you get lucky with halfed casts on your 40/40 set), in balanced spike build shutdown with shame/diversion is gonna hurt more.

but you know i dont use guardian.

Divine Slaya · Sep 11, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

I personally find MoR diversion/shame to be equally annoying as Migraine/frustration. When used alone, Migraine and Frustration are not much of a problem because I simply remove my veil when need be. My problem is when I'm facing a mesmer that is using both skills because I will remove my first veil and then I am am forced to monk through a frustration.

MoR diversion/shame isn't much of a problem with me either because I will just keep my veil up rather than remove it. If they start making it a habit to remove and interupt my veils when recasting, then it is a bit more tricky.

Powerblock blackout mesmers definantly mess me up the most if they are actually successful at it. I guess I just don't encounter these often in TA or I just haven't noticed them enough to consider them as annoying.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 11, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Divine Slaya

MoR diversion/shame isn't much of a problem with me either because I will just keep my veil up rather than remove it. If they start making it a habit to remove and interupt my veils when recasting, then it is a bit more tricky.

Most MoR mesmers have drain enchantment so its useless to even try and keep it up...

I guess I just don't encounter these often in TA or I just haven't noticed them enough to consider them as annoying.[/QUOTE]

Well i mean annoying when you play them, not "haven't played them enough"

Just Another Chest Runner · Sep 12, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Mokone

but yes, mor i guess, or a really random echo blackout lol ^_^ (hi to you if you read this :P)

lol mokone, that would be me =) though i dont think i've used it against you before (its been a while since i last ran that build.

mor diversion is /hate. p block i dont see too much, migraine you can get around

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 12, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52

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Originally Posted by urania

also, any smart mesmers will just lay off you as soon as they see you're using hb.

then you dont have to worry about a mez then do you lol

Age · Sep 12, 2007, 04:40 AM // 04:40

For me in say TA it would be cry of frustration.diversion and power spike along with MoR.If they are using it shatter enchments.I wouldn't worry about blackout that more for a Warrior or Ranger.

urania · Sep 12, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz

then you dont have to worry about a mez then do you lol

they'll either go shutdown the other caster(s) in your team (and make themselves useful, at least) or wait a bit till you might forget to use hex breaker again.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Sep 12, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Powerblock doesn't work vs spirits, so i think they will be fine xD