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Hyprodimus Prime · Dec 30, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

http://gwshack.us/404d1

How would you change the build? Right now there is no good enchantment for the second sin to run off. What do you suggest?

-----> Latest version after much revision http://gwshack.us/b01bb

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Dec 30, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16

call me crazy but i think it needs more Fear Me, either ss warriors or fear me sins imo

Hyprodimus Prime · Dec 30, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Maybe SS and a splinter rit? Well originally i was thinking to use the moebius with fear me. But then I thought, all I want to do is shut the monks down, lots of interrupts, 2 mesmers and 1 sin with high damage the other with mass enchant removal should do the job. The fire ele pumps in a little more damage and provides the cover hex for Panic. I think i need some advice on the Trident ele. I havent played trident myself and I dont see much of it anyways.

Ec]-[oMaN · Dec 30, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

lol any build without suffering to cover the panic sucks ballz, I could give you 2 sin bars that would pwn face with that build however.

batno_mercy · Dec 30, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

I'd go with one entirely Fear Me assassin,
http://pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/W_Fear-Inspiring_Sin

[skill]Locust's Fury[/skill] can be dropped and the rest of the first sin's build run normally, in the exception of Impale being replaced by Fear Me for e-denial efficiency.

Is there any way to take at least one more hex removal? At least one more revealed hex on the first mesmer for example, since with 2 sins the likeliness of anti-melee hexes to be spread out on both will be pretty big, and most anti-melee hexes recharge for about 10 secs as in [skill]Empathy[/skill] [skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Insidious Parasite[/skill] .

BTW, on the build u posted the 2nd sin, he has 5 communing and not 5 command. Minor mistake, Com is for Communing, Command is for Command.

Otherwise, I like the build very much.

TheHaxor · Dec 30, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

needs more cover hexes for panic

For an e-denial build it is pretty light on just that... e-denial. It needs more sources of e-denial.

I also don't think e-denial is the way to go in halls.

itsme · Jan 03, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

I just had a quick glimpse on that build of yours...
As some people already pointed out I believe it's missing its e-denail power

I like the concept of energy denail but I think you have to devote a greater part of your build to energy denail than just like 1 or 2 characters and you have to evaluate whether the energy denail you are applying is any good or if you'd be
better off just throwing more damage on your enemies...

As I don't want to alter your build that much, here is a build my guild ran as a fun build like half a month ago and it turned out to be pretty decent.

http://gwshack.us/7f24

I heard rust on zergway's backline is pretty fun

Hyprodimus Prime · Jan 04, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

I think you guys are right, Ill need to get fear me into both sins some how. Im feeling I dont need tha shatter sin. Im really just using it for enchantment strip. Any suggestions on keeping enchantments off a target?

xx hells paladin xx · Jan 04, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

just wondering where is infuse??!?!?

TheHaxor · Jan 04, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by xx hells paladin xx

just wondering where is infuse??!?!?

i herd heal/jamei's gaze other wuz gud under HB.

Seriously though, you generally take either infuse or Heal Other on a HB bar.

Hyprodimus Prime · Jan 05, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

HB usually has heal other/jamei instead of infuse. Ive added a W/D (with scythe) warrior for more defense, condition pressure, fear me and damage. Ive compressed the first sin to include Fear Me. I dont know if that's a good idea, but now the build has 2 AoE melee-ers, fear me, less enchantment removal and no SoC. I dont know where to put it in. I also think I need guardian somewhere. But then again theres the WoW on the Mind Blaster. Think it needs it?

zling · Jan 05, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

your only condition removers is an RC monk and an off monk draw. you could use more condition removers, the other monk could use dismiss/mending touch and perhaps some other char could also carry a condition remover.

add another Warrior, perhaps Crip Slasher(which can replace the Trident Ele) and put Fear Me! on him too

you need another AoE hex in there to cover Panic. Suffering is a great choice for that.
you can bring it on a Depravity Necro, perhaps replacing the 2nd mesmer.

I'm missing mind wrack on a heavy e-denial build. especially with tons of Fear Me! you should consider bringing Wastel's Worry along as well, as another pressure hex and a cheap cover hex for your big hexes.

Hyprodimus Prime · Jan 06, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Bars are extremely tight now, but I think it covers the basics.

Panic is now covered by Suffering instead of Mark Rodgort.
I took your advice on Depravity, Wards and AoE snare is provided by the new necro (replaced Trident ele) who also has Depravity and anti-melee hexes.
The mind blaster is heavy support now with Draw, Aura of Stability and another veil.
Took out PD mes and added a crippleshot ranger who has Debilitating for more e-denial, interrupts, Speed buff, Song of Concentration and more conditions.
(poison, bleeding, cripple on ranger, deepwound on melee, weakness possibility from warrior and burning too.)

I thought the Ranger would be more versatile than the warrior for range and fast recharge.
I do feel more condition removal is needed as well, but I dont know where to put it.
It's also renamed, Rainbow because I realized it has every profession primary or secondary.

salbiscuit · Jan 16, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I would have to agree...just run iway imo.

newbie_of_doom · Feb 18, 2008, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Firstly, WTFOMG GET CHANNELING ON TEH HB WTF.

So secondly, get parastic bond on the necro, liek doh.

Then why are you running a cripshot, this isn't gvg (rlly), try to use a crippling anthem para.

2x fear me charactars isn't a lot of pressure, because if the monks are good it will not be too likely that your fear me will be spammed on their mid/highset.

I would make the mesmer more degen with less shutdown, since you wouldn't need to if no one has energy, right? Keep diversion though, add shame, keep pleak and take degen and e-management (conjure nightmare + aspecious incantation ftw) for the rest. This would probably add more pressure (the diversion is for blinders)

And then there is a question:P Why run a w/d and not a second a/w?