Curse

shadowmage61 · Mar 06, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Good to see some of these imbalanced skills finally get hit with the nerf bat, but I'm a little confused as to what the hell happened to shroud of silence. It didn't popup in any gimmicky builds I know of, and I'm sure there were other things that needed to be addressed more than this. Now with the nerf, why would anybody ever use this when blackout recharges in 1/3 the time, lasts just as long with 2 points in domination magic as shroud does with 12 points in deadly arts, and disables all skills when shroud only disables spells? Not to mention that blackout only disables the casters skills for 5 seconds while shroud disables the casters spells for a whopping 15 seconds. Now this elite assassin skill has less functionality than a regular mesmer skill. I'm not just whining about this because I'm a sin (I rarely use the skill anyway), but just wondering if anyone else thinks the shroud nerf was a little heavy-handed.

Killed u man · Mar 06, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by bk359

So I like a fair amount of the new update, but like others was shocked to see Wail of Doom. Honestly, I don't like to complain, but I had to say something. I like the efforts to improve necros dhutdown abilities in higher end pvp, but wail of doom is too much. Put 2 Wail of Doom necros in your midline and pin them on the monks and you win? Aside from that I like the update alot.

Let's first see what happens before we undo buffs...

People QQ about WoD being overpowered and everyone will run one now...

Let's see what happens first...

øln · Mar 06, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Nice update, except that Wail of doom update made Necrospikes / N/rt healers even more ridicoulus now.
N/Rt healers & icy veins is still degenerating HA.

DutchSmurf · Mar 06, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium

There's no point in having both late-game GvG shouts, since they are both always active now. Why not just have Victory or Death and give it the desired effect(s)??

ViO is only applied on the players, VoD on both the players and the npcs. Which is probably the reason to keep both.

Keithark · Mar 06, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Good update....WoD being reverted in 5...4....3...2.. But until then observer will be funny I think. Glad to see no buff to gale or nerf to mend touch, stride, and cripshot nerf is fine no big loss there it still great. Reverting cast time to 2 sec on HP is ok, but think they should have put the healing back to where it was as well. I think the war kd's, less wards, less cancel cast aegis(= less aegis) WoD will make for lots of dirt naps

Winstar · Mar 06, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Aoe Weaken armor might be an interesting skill on a mes/nec fast cast taint in conditions builds coupled with a few extra means of triggering deep wounds like body blow which is already run.

kvndoom · Mar 06, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Wail won't last long at its current state.

This is a good shakeup and I like it. Look forward to watching observer mode again. And Lion's Comfort is FINALLY not garbage!

Andrew Patrick · Mar 06, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Glad to see you like the changes.

As always, we will be monitoring the changes so if you have concerns, please do post them.

GD Defender · Mar 06, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

At a glance, extremely satisfied that you're getting moving. I don't have time to analyze everything right now, but concerned about Wail, as is everyone else.

Winstar · Mar 06, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

One thing i don't like is the heavy hit on the E/D. It was a good flexible template that should be in existence, not sure how playable it is now. And wail is too much.

Greedy Gus · Mar 06, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Very good changes all-around this time, though I strongly disagree with the direction taken for dom mesmers.

la_cabra_de_vida · Mar 06, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Overall good update I think, Wail is a bit iffy maybe, but at 4 seconds, I guess we'll see. Magehunter's is probably better than dhammer now.

Keithark · Mar 06, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by Winstar

One thing i don't like is the heavy hit on the E/D. It was a good flexible template that should be in existence, not sure how playable it is now.

it is still playable just not spamtastic like before.....e/d tanks needed a nerf anyway in other "PvP" besides GvG

Shuuda · Mar 06, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

Very good changes all-around this time, though I strongly disagree with the direction taken for dom mesmers.

Agreed, Mesmers need to move away from interruptions, very seriously.

ax mastery · Mar 06, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Wail of doom is the ultimate form of linebacking now!
They wont meet the weapon req or get the bonus dmg!! haha
I'm going to love a 10 dmg eviserate. Not.
WoD needs changed.

Most of the other stuff looks great though, thanks for listening to community thoughts.

yum · Mar 06, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Very interesting update indeed.

About WoD, it can be nasty in TA...

Boogz · Mar 06, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

RIP mind blasters , welcome back B-surgers

Moloch Vein · Mar 06, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Unlike some of the people here I think the change to WoD is basically sound. The exact numbers might need tweaking, maybe going for a longer duration with a slightly less drastic effect, or whatever, and maybe changing the skill type yet again, but...

Yeah, this is the most innovative update since I started playing GW.

C2K · Mar 06, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by CassiusDrehyg

Siphon Speed got the Ether Renewal treatment. RIP.

Siphon Speed is still playable. Shroud of Silence got Ether Renewal'd

Mr Fizzle · Mar 06, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Not bad,I think in my opinion sin split was gay but didn't seemed overpowered but thats just me.