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P3pt0 1s @n @ddiction · Feb 18, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Reporting in on The New Gimmick way D/MO R/D R/D R/Mo

Theirs been a spread of escape rangers with Scythes and its geeting anoyying their adding more lame to the build as days go on....... This is freakin Build wars first we remove nec and start running dual wars because Dual monks flooded districts but now we face the new Gimmick code name "Pious Escape" as im calling them. With multi evades the whole team is a living breathing blockway they re introduce the D/Mo which me and darth masterd

bak into that meta Which is a ball of joy to face.

So far all ive come to up beat them is rends to their d/mo many kds if ur hexway ull have better chance but gl v.s Dual Monk

Any additional methods of countering plz post

P.S <------Anti-Gimmick squad forming

Teh Jace · Feb 18, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I suggest 4x mesmer with echoed blackout!!! And 3 2 1 wandspike.

Sab · Feb 18, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

I haven't played this new D/Mo way but you generally beat it by shutting down self-healing and then interrupting Pious Light. I'm guessing the R/Ds don't have any condition removal or heals? Just degen out the R/Ds and train the D/Mo, hopefully getting a lucky Rend/Shock on his Pious Light (Pious Concentration sucks).

Aera · Feb 18, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I'm so going to build an SB/RI spike with Shadow Shroud

And ye Rigor and Defile Defenses should WTFPWN them.

Teh Jace · Feb 18, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

We brought wild blow on warr and z0mg pwn3d them.

kel77 · Feb 18, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I played several teams like this over the past week. They are incredibly annoying because attacking them isn't very effective due to escape, but they can't really kill anything either, they just run all over the map, which I find pretty lame.

urania · Feb 18, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

soul barbs spike should make a return.

srsly.

lol

hit&runway soul barbs spike, that is =D

Divineshadows · Feb 18, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I wonder how the old school NR TA build with an apply cripshot with debil, shock/bull's warrior (wild blow sometimes was run on this bar), oath trapper with NR, barbed, dust, d-shot, throw dirt, and a monk with draw, evasive stance, and quarter second enchants would fare against the TA gimmicks of today. Penalizes maintened enchantments (i.e. healer's convenant), long casting enchantments (guardian), and hexes.

Unfortunately, a large chunk of the damage comes from degen and patient spirit could pose a problem. Several consecutive debils on the patient spirit user could help counter that some.

yum · Feb 18, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

oh new gimmick. It's a news!

Seraphim of Chaos · Feb 18, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divineshadows

I wonder how the old school NR TA build with an apply cripshot with debil, shock/bull's warrior (wild blow sometimes was run on this bar), oath trapper with NR, barbed, dust, d-shot, throw dirt, and a monk with draw, evasive stance, and quarter second enchants would fare against the TA gimmicks of today. Penalizes maintened enchantments (i.e. healer's convenant), long casting enchantments (guardian), and hexes.

Unfortunately, a large chunk of the damage comes from degen and patient spirit could pose a problem. Several consecutive debils on the patient spirit user could help counter that some.

It wouldn't work.

321 warmongers!

Divineshadows · Feb 18, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphim of Chaos

It wouldn't work.

321 warmongers!

Do you mean warmongers on a melee or warmongers on a spear user? Only a warmongered paragon or R/P using a spear would cause a problem (oathed throw dirt is still an option here). Executing the build I described, the monk kites toward dust and barbed traps and has an evasive stance as an additional fail-safe (natural stride being a possible choice to also allow the monk to kite to the traps faster). With 2 d-shots, a savage shot, and shock in the build, interrupting warmongers is also a possibility.

Barkeep · Feb 18, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Havent seen it yet...

I have played 3 R/D though. It was pretty decent, but not exeptional. And like many other gimmicks it gets owned by one single skill; grasping earth.

Teh Jace · Feb 18, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

I dont rly think this is hard to beat. Any decent hexway will crush it and with 2 warrs just bring wild blow and roll em.
But yes, its annoying, fairly strong and again very easy to play thus noobs will like it. ppl already started running this so we expect boom in a few following days.

--- Ur anti-gimmick radio, stay tunned.

Dodo The Extinct · Feb 18, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Why is the OP's avatar a person chugging Pepto Bismol.

I think that is more disturbing than the gimmik.

6am3 Fana71c · Feb 19, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Yeah I faced this new gimmick this evening...We killed 2 of them somehow, mostly thanks to our necro, but since most of my team was melee (RA team lawl) we lost due to wtfconstant block >:

LuckyGiant · Feb 19, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divineshadows

oath trapper with NR, barbed, dust, d-shot, throw dirt,

Unfortunately due to magebane the oath trapper is no longer viable. Probably fair very well against the common gimmicks though.

Shendaar · Feb 19, 2008, 01:49 PM // 13:49

I think a EDA Scythe dervish with Wild Blow would do the trick(keeping you alive that is).

Royale · Mar 12, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Rend Enchants and knockdowns, party's OVER.

wintersclan · Mar 31, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

My usu. melee bar to counter R/D:

[skill]Rip Enchantment[/skill] [skill]Wild Blow[/skill]

And my usu. melee bar to counter crit sins:

[skill]Rip Enchantment[/skill] [skill]Griffon's Sweep[/skill]

Patrick Smit · Apr 01, 2008, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Wild blow is problematic as u need to recharge any adrenal skill, they may have activated another stance or even escape again.

Defile defenses can be harmful, but it is only once per 5 seconds, no real solution either.

This is just a big invite to monkstomp, and in the mean while you snare the R/D's