Curse

Shendaar · Mar 13, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

But it is terrible. It fails at the part where the eles have to cast OF without getting interrupted.

Sab · Mar 13, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

Stop calling it a terrable build without justification.

This build is terrible because it does not have the tools necessary to beat a decent team. If you plan on beating only bad players, you can do much better than Shockwave spike.

TheOneMephisto · Mar 13, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

When everyone instantly recognizes that it's a terrible build, you don't need to justify it.

Riotgear · Mar 13, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

If you're going to criticize it, you can at least take the fifteen extra seconds it takes to type out a reason why instead of fluffing your post count and wasting precious bytes on Inde's hard drive with a post that does exactly nothing to further the conversation.

Killed u man's post kind of sums up the problems though.

Master Ketsu · Mar 14, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

You are using 3 people to shadowstep spike a target for ~1000- damage when you can use 1 sin to do ~600- . It may do well against some teams, but you would really get rolled by a good balanced team. Obsidian flame is also terrible Magebane / Dshot / *insert interrupt of choice* bait.

The HC bar is good but actually lacks alot of self healing. Since none of your ele's have any kind of real defensive support, good teams will kill the monk easily.

Your build isn't as terrible as some of the cookie cutter scrubs here are calling it. It will roll unorganized teams, but you are much better off running something more balanced then this. You will lose to good teams.

Mouse at Large · Mar 15, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Consider Crystal Wave and it's duplicate. They do armour ignoring damage....

masta_yoda · Mar 16, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

no deepwound ... fail

Seraphim of Chaos · Mar 16, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shendaar

But it is terrible. It fails at the part where the eles have to cast OF without getting interrupted.

Glyph of Concentration is a good choice.

Brian the Gladiator · Mar 16, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Interrupts aren't a major problem... like i said in another post, the spike can kill with only 2 E/As

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

You are using 3 people to shadowstep spike a target for ~1000- damage when you can use 1 sin to do ~600- . It may do well against some teams, but you would really get rolled by a good balanced team. Obsidian flame is also terrible Magebane / Dshot / *insert interrupt of choice* bait.

Assassins take 6-7 seconds to do 600 damage... mine takes 3/4 of a second... shut up!

Master Ketsu · Mar 16, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Wrong, they take about 5 seconds at most with tiger. Also you must consider that most sin combo's have a lot more utility mixed in ( Deep wound, knockdown, Deep wound, enchant break, poison, DEEP F**ING WOUND, ect. ) increasing their viability. Your spike on the other hand is straight damage with nothing to stop them from countering it - which is what good teams will do.

This is what we are trying to tell you - Good teams will counter this. You will roll bad teams pretty easily though, but a good team will interrupt your obsidian, Daze/shutdown your monk, SB your spike, use enchantment's/armor buffs to slow down your spike, and you wont be able to do anything... all because your build has NO utility.

alen · Mar 16, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

If you really want a spike like this use 2 of those eles a monk and a paragon spaming heals, dps, rending targets and assisting spikes with deep wound or something

Teh Jace · Mar 16, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

This build is similar to escape way in HA - u wont win anything unless u meet noobs.

SuTiH · Apr 06, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

IMO, hc is only good with more than just 1 healer ~~ WoH ftw

and as people said before.. :

1 decent balanced team and you're out, ranger interupts 1 shockwave,necro does wail of doom on another ele and u only have 1 ele spiking... which will be around.. 200 dmg?

Chaos Rofl Copter · Apr 13, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

rangers > spikes in ta

Lawliet Kira · Apr 16, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

if you had some other AoE besides shockwave...wouldnt be so bad imo