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Old May 13, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04   #1
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Sorry, this is just another complain thread. I am not a ranked player in Hero's Ascent. I would be...if i had the chance. I can NEVER get into ONE single group unless it's random way, i tried random way 66 (YES I COUNTED) times TODAY, didnt win ONE SINGLE MATCH. I try to get into groups but they wont let me in. All i am asking is to have the high ranks play against the high ranks and the low ranks play against the low ranks so we at least have a chance of gaining our title that we want so dearly. Now i know some of you guys are high ranked that are gonna post on this thread, let me say this, you deserve to play ppl that are ranked as same as you, not beginners and massacre them.

Please leave your comments, i really dont care if you flame
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #2
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Play Sway. Thats how everyone gets started.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09   #3
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I tried that ALSO, but ALL Sway ppl required ranked ppl
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #4
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I totally agree it's tough getting ranked.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #5
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Play Sway. Thats how everyone gets started.
dingdingdingding. c-spacing for the wiiiin.

Rank doesn't mean skill, everyone knows this. Rank means experience, which is now more important than ever in todays objective-based HA. So when MY team of r6+ people makes it to the courtyard i don't have an unranked unexperienced randomway scrub running around like a headless chicken searching for their PRIEST. Their priest! COURTYARD!! Plus i don't have to waste time slowly explaining the details to them instead of discussing tactics with the people who have a clue. 98% of the time, higher ranked people know what to do on each of the maps. That's the only thing that rank means.

As far as people playing only with people the same rank as them - absolutely NOT. HA is dead enough as it is, there's enough skips / missing parties / etc. That'd just make it worse and is entirely unnecessary.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14   #6
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Thizzle...aru being sarcastic...i cant tell..
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #7
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I'm seriously not being sarcastic. I'm working on r3, but all I ever get is Sway which works sometimes, but I rather have a party that knows what they're doing and win HA.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #8
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rank is a funny thing. a player could have earned that pretty emote 2+years ago, during one of those double point weekends or by use of some gimmick build, but ofcourse those factors dont come into the end result.

a more accurate system would be to show ingame per player a rank against time graph to exactly pinpoint consistanct, activity, and any suspicious number spikes due to gimmick/point bonus etc.

as for sway, the rising qq inevitably always forces izzy into nerf overkill mode. you may want to turn up the volume if he misses the mark in the next update, but untill then not much can be done.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #9
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It's dead as it is because it's like a gentlemen's club.
New people don't get in because nobody helps each other, yet these same people complain about how dead it's getting.
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #10
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anything over rnk3+ I dont count

If you could show rnk1, id take that

most people want rank 3 just to show they've BEEN in HA before

getting ranked normally requires one of three things:

1. Having a high ranked friend who can sneak you in
2. Finding a group of unranked players who can work together, and frequently
3. Joining a HA starter guild, yes there are guilds out there who take in new members to HA (personally the easiest imho, then again I run one of these guilds so heh ^^)


Not being ranked doesn't mean you have the run randomway, at the end of the day theres always the fotm, but then again a good way to get fame is farm the fotm
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Old May 13, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #11
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lol, i gave up trying to up my rank a while ago, for this reason only. This is also why i quit my GvG guild when they tried to switch to HA, 40% of people are elitist asshats, and 40% of people are scrubs with gimmick builds.


but i love the other 20%, if only we could clone them........
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Old May 13, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16   #12
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If you can't get into a team, join a guild or START YOUR OWN TEAM. Stop complaining about rank discrimination, make your own team and let people in regardless of rank, but make sure they run the right builds. How is this a difficult concept to grasp?
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Old May 13, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #13
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Stop QQing.

How do you think all the high ranked players got to r3?

as a r9 player i'll tell you.



instead of sitting around complaining about how broke HA was we found a guild or a group of people to play with consistently.


If you really have as much skill as a r6 player like half the unranked kids think they do, when you make it into a ranked group you'll impress them and they'll ask you back. If you suck they wont.


Yes rank=skill.



and yes a r6 balance player could possibly have as much skill as a r9 IWAYer but a r6+ anything has more experiance than an unranked player simply because they know what to do on the maps.





QFT and get in a group
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Old May 13, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #14
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A fellow high ranked HA player ing devil king blue

Dude no offence when people QQ about not getting in groups. i Don't feel bad. i've seen a player go from rank 0 2 rank 10 in under 7 months in todays meta. They got into a low ranked guild and kept playing together. It's not hard 2 get people together and play i learn the ropes. if you get a group of friends together i keep playing with each other you will end up meeting people know all the ropes of every map and get good together.

How do you think leeloof, starcraft all the other high ranked guilds got so good. they played alot together. So matter you play S-way,hexway, balnced or a spike you are going to get better as the more you play. RANK is the only thing you can show is that you have some sort of exp in heros ascent because then you would know if a person was new to the game and doesn't even know what the zaishen was. SO plz get out there make your own group if really need you can pm me here or ingame DEVIL KING BLUE if you have any questions about maps or builds i would be glad to help yall out but if i don't respond then i would be in a match so plz don't think i'm ignoring you. peace out yall and remember get out there and pwn people the more you play the better you getting exp doesn't come from OSmosis.
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Old May 13, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22   #15
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my guild recently joined up with a HA alliance. The comment i heard on TS yesterday was

"who would have thought that 3 months ago we would be regularly getting minimum 5-6 fame per session".

That might not seem like much, but for me to actually get a group where we get fame, is good enough for me at the moment. I am only <1 rank newbie to HA who has played scrubway / randomway with no Vent or TS and who currently now has started accumulating rank with a group that regularly does HA with TS.

The comments i hear are...

"oh, we are up against Lightbringers (fictional name) team again... damn... lets wait for him to frenzy... wait for it wait for it... frenzy on... spike. LOL"

or

"damn, not "Big killer" again. I'm Targeting Mia Mesmer. By now they should know that we only every target Mia."

"Who else can we target?"

"You are right, maybe we should target Mia and hope they think we are targeting someone else"

From what i see, it;s all about who you play against,,, knowing your opposition. Ranger spike... opki... hug the walls. Move upstairs... move downstairs, get under the bridge. etc etc. First time i have ever taken it up against a rank +12 leader playing Telespike (Ranger + A/D) and we lasted nearly 10mins.

i am no expert, but i think you should listen to some of the experienced people above. rank doesn;t mean skill... i think it means knowledge, confidence and knowing what to do.
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Old May 13, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #16
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and yes a r6 balance player could possibly have as much skill as a r9 IWAYer but a r6+ anything has more experiance than an unranked player simply because they know what to do on the maps.


QFT and get in a group

Amen to that you hit the money rank is only somehting you can look to when you don't know the person AKA your credit score when getting a loan i used to morgage shit so i know it's a random example

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i am no expert, but i think you should listen to some of the experienced people above. rank doesn;t mean skill... i think it means knowledge, confidence and knowing what to do.

QFT and get in a group

rank doesn't equal skill in some cases but only as a refrence you can go by from a person you've never played with before especially in some situations
(ex. monking) i've played with some of the best and worst. So it upon you to get out there start your own groups and play don't wait for others GL yall again if yall need any help do be afraid to pm me TRUST ME i don't rage ( only at one person your took 5 mins litterally to aura me) and he was rank 10 thats says somehting upon rank.
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Old May 13, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40   #17
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Now i know some of you guys are high ranked that are gonna post on this thread, let me say this, you deserve to play ppl that are ranked as same as you, not beginners and massacre them.

Please leave your comments, i really dont care if you flame
at r3 I massacred r10+ groups.

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as for sway, the rising qq inevitably always forces izzy into nerf overkill mode. you may want to turn up the volume if he misses the mark in the next update, but untill then not much can be done.
Until sway starts appearing in gvg, Izzy isn't going to nerf sway. No one cares about TA/RA/AB/HA/HB. The only two things Anet cares about is GvG and PvE.

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Yes rank=skill.
I just died laughing. Rank does not equal skill. At r3 I was infusing in r10 groups and doing very well. My rank has nothing to do with my reflexes and my common sense on how to use my skill bar. The only thing rank means is you've prolly been past the first two maps and acutally know some sort of tactics for them.

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i Don't feel bad. i've seen a player go from rank 0 2 rank 10 in under 7 months in todays meta.
Eww meta. I've gone from r0 to r9 in a little over 4 months without meta. It's not hard to get rank. Talk to people, ask them if you could join their group (even if it's a higher rank than you). Be nice and polite, if they're nice back add them to your fl and talk to them occasionally. :\ Don't fail at your bar either, if you have questions ask.

If you do form your own groups whisp me, and if I'm not busy I'll come monk.

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Old May 13, 2008, 11:16 AM // 11:16   #18
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