Curse

Divinus Stella · May 19, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

I know what you mean, i tried to pug HA on a my brothers account when i was bored, its nearly impossible to find a pug that wants anyone without fame regardless of how good they actually are.

The only real way to play HA is with a guild group or friends, even if you do manage to find a pug they usually suck and disband after a few losses.

HA is roughly 50% synergy, 30% build and 20% player skill so if you want to get anywhere you really have to play with the same people.

Th Fooster · May 19, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

I said it once, i will say it again. if you want fame or rank, inorder to make yourself "puggable",then take heed:
Play the meta. Learn it. Find its weakness and exploit it. but NEVER stay in it. Farm it. the Metagame is your friend.
and when the meta changes, Play meta for a while, find its weakness, and adapt. Rise above.

Along the way you will eventualy make friends automaticaly That wont care about your rank.

Eddie Frenzy Spam · May 19, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Natural

For someone starting out, this isn't really the case. You gain an HA friends list by HA'ing, but he can't get started in HA. "Make friends who can get you into ranked groups" is easier said than done.

No this is not true really, you can make friends in HA just by talking to people in local chat, by doing RA, by playing PVE, you can meet HA'ers ANYWHERE in the game.

You seem to be under the impression that HA'ers play no other part of the game, of course everyone in HA are going to be HA'ers and not everyone in RA will be, but that doesn't mean you can't meet them there.

Infact, I only started PvP at all in October, before that i was the kinda guy who would run mending on my warrior, you know the type =P I made one of my first and best friends on GW in the Underworld, about 2 and a half years ago, and guess what. He's a pvp'er, when I started PvP then in October, he was able to get me into all the groups he made and gave me a starting foot until I knew what I was doing and could make my own groups.

In my experience the PvP'ers are far more social than the majority of the PvE'ers in this game, maybe this is because most of the PvP'ers are used to talking to strangers on vent more so than PvE'ers (not including your own guild) and they don't seem inclined to just randomly join in conversations in local.

Basically since I was r3 nearly everygroup I played with in HA was r5 or 6+, and this is all down to my friends list and being social, i've met alot of people just talking in local in HA districts and such, and from there have managed to get into alot of groups requiring higher rank than my own. I'm now like r7 and alot of the time play with r9's and 10's (yeah they still fail *rolls eyes*), hell I was even in Ar Vin PvP [AMp] for a good 2/3 months, and that guild is purely r10+.

People need to get social.

Killed u man · May 19, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by eddie the reaper

People need to get social.

QFT

When someone joins my vent, I can say for 99% sure wether or not he swayed his rank. If he talks on vent, says hi, activly uses his mic, you know he's used to coordination. If he doesn't say anything, you simply he know he played shitbuilds for his rank...

Atm, I know 4 people who are R12+ and don't even speak English... (And yes, they pug English groups, but ALL they did for their fame was Thumper, N/Rt's, expel, ...)

Oukanna · May 19, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

I went through a lot of crap to get my r3.
Don't give up ^^

Unfortunatly since im r3, still its not that much better xDD
It does take a while to form groups, and the quality of groups i find are still quite low. I am not high enough to play with my ele (my strongest proffesion as ive played with it for over 2 years) unless i find a low ranked sh pressure or that funny Eoe ele bomb.

I can get into r6 groups sometimes, and even they fail 90% of the time and shout at each other, i find the healers get the most stick, but they also dish it out.

So far Sway, seems to be dominant, but they get owned by all the high ranking players doing the balanced teams and good spikes. its like being r0-r3 all over again lols

I won't quit, nor will i play it none stop, its something you got to pick at i think (for the new players) that way you won't get so frustrated with it.

Another tactic that i use, is forming my own groups (it can be hasle) but if your low rank advertising for team builds, you usually find other low ranks will take you up on the offer. (When i was unranked i formed sh pressure builds all the time) I tried Iway, but hated it. Now I Sway every now and then.

Today i had an afternoon free and all i could get into was sway. for about 4 hours playing i only racked up 5 fames -_-
Oh and this funny screenie i took, we lost a match and this guy spammed this message (made me giggle) he spammed this in a mater of a second, so my guess is, he had it pre copied or ready on the screen to do a speed copy and paste job. *sighs*

Nature Loves Me · May 19, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

I'm going to try to make some HA friends, atm that is what I'm doing. Pugging and when I'm in descent PuG groups I asked the leader and some of the other players if they want to add me and PM me whenever they need an extra player for HA.

As said by someone on this post, I'll keep playing with these people and we'll win more and more.

Going to do this for a few weeks to make as many HA friends as I can. Right now I got R1 Hero. Got like 10 points with the same group, and still with them atm and is it just me or are more people starting to use Contagion pressure because we just ran into 3 different Contagion groups in a row and got rolled =\

Narcotic · May 19, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

lol you got rolled by our contagion i remember you. You were the Rt with expel.
Contagion ownes sway.

Nature Loves Me · May 20, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcotic

lol you got rolled by our contagion i remember you. You were the Rt with expel.
Contagion ownes sway.

Haha yes, I hate Sway, but that's what I gotta put up with when pugging 'til R3 and 'til I meet some more people that wanna do more fun Team Builds.
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Edit:
To people reading this, I'm like re-thinking about Guilds and I'd like a Guild that HA'd often, like more than once a day because I'm an active player and I must always be doing something, I'd prefer not to have to go RA all day because nothing is happening and realises I am not FULLY experienced in HA. I will make mistakes. Only exception to the first part of that is like if the Guild is a big alliance PvE and PvP so when no PvP is going on I can PvE with some of the Guild Members or Alliance Members. I can NOT stand bordome lol. GW is all I really play, and some CS:S, but I suck at shooters xD.

streets101 · May 20, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th Fooster

I said it once, i will say it again. if you want fame or rank, inorder to make yourself "puggable",then take heed:
Play the meta. Learn it. Find its weakness and exploit it. but NEVER stay in it. Farm it. the Metagame is your friend.
and when the meta changes, Play meta for a while, find its weakness, and adapt. Rise above.

Along the way you will eventualy make friends automaticaly That wont care about your rank.

Playing the meta game only teaches you to pummel the noobs. Playing well thought builds and actually discussing strat will get you somewhere....

Nature Loves Me · May 20, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by streets101

Playing the meta game only teaches you to pummel the noobs. Playing well thought builds and actually discussing strat will get you somewhere....

Unfortunately, due to the fact most HA guilds small with Core players, don't HA all day, or most of the day, and the ones that do require ranks, I'm incapable of "Farming the Meta."

I'm still hoping for a Guild that would want me, that DOES Heroes' Ascent a LOT, and will not scream at me for making errors. Not having much luck on the first two things. I require activity, I don't know if it's a lot to ask, but I can't join a non-active HA Guild.

I usually advertise myself as a "Rit LFG." I choose Ritualist because I have every single Elite unlocked except one(Sig of Spirits, Which is not very useful IMO) and mostly due to my love for Ritualists xD.

Whenever I can't get in a group I just watch what other Rits do on the Observer.

43 Fame right now...slow...but it's going up, once I'm R3 things will be a lot easier, hopefully. And also hope I can find a active Guild that is HA focused before that, would be nice ^^.

Edit: I wish you could see Buffs and Debuffs on people without clicking on them, so I can see who Weapon Spells are put on without clicking on everyone xD.

Edit: Done looking for Guilds, Due to a friend from a friend ^^, it'd odd, lol, but still want to meet some people that I can HA with ^^.

lardo · May 21, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

just sway till ur like r4 or 5 then u will get decent teams

Free Sigils · May 21, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Basically I can't say anything that hasn't been said. We've all done it at one time or another. Just be smart, ask questions. Learn what every build you see does. Learn what all the skills do, so you can know them just by looking at themselves. Learn about advantages. I.E. Don't stand downhill from a team of rangers, it gives them accuracy and damage advantage. Whenever you play with a "good" player. Ask them questions. Don't sound desperate, but don't pretend to know everything. Eventually you will break in, and you will be a better player for all of the knowledge you soaked up.

If you do sway - when you do sway. Use it to learn. Not just as a crutch to make fame. LEarn the tricks of the maps past UW, because you will need them. Don't just go along from the ride.

Th Fooster · May 22, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by streets101

Playing the meta game only teaches you to pummel the noobs. Playing well thought builds and actually discussing strat will get you somewhere....

read cearfuly what i said... i didnt say play only meta. i said play it to learn it, then find its weakness and then farm it MEANING.. make a counter to the meta, and some of these "well thought out builds" become meta.

meta builds arenot thoughtless button mash builds. they are jsut well thought out noob proofed builds that are pugable.

you can complicate the crap outta your build if you like... but its the PLAYER much more then the bar.

so i will say it once more....

Learn the meta. Play it. NEVER stay in it longe than it takes o learn it.learn its weaknes. Exploit that weakness.Step outside the box, and lead your own groups.

the only other thing i say is, sheer stubborn persistance.1 fame at a time.

untill you get a groove. The best builds often have a learning curve that take constant play to learn. give a build 1 week. then decinde. dont change skill bars every time you get rolled.
the solution is almost never found in the bar. its found in the player.

player=50% skill bars =20% tactics =30%.

brehon pg · May 23, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

hey Nature Loves Me if you still want play ha ... pm me my name "brehon pg"

Free Sigils · May 23, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th Fooster

read cearfuly what i said... i didnt say play only meta. i said play it to learn it, then find its weakness and then farm it MEANING.. make a counter to the meta, and some of these "well thought out builds" become meta.

meta builds arenot thoughtless button mash builds. they are jsut well thought out noob proofed builds that are pugable.

you can complicate the crap outta your build if you like... but its the PLAYER much more then the bar.

so i will say it once more....

Learn the meta. Play it. NEVER stay in it longe than it takes o learn it.learn its weaknes. Exploit that weakness.Step outside the box, and lead your own groups.

the only other thing i say is, sheer stubborn persistance.1 fame at a time.

untill you get a groove. The best builds often have a learning curve that take constant play to learn. give a build 1 week. then decinde. dont change skill bars every time you get rolled.
the solution is almost never found in the bar. its found in the player.

player=50% skill bars =20% tactics =30%.

/agree

Extra Characters Because The Forum Won't Let Me Post.

Killed u man · May 23, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nature Loves Me

Unfortunately, due to the fact most HA guilds small with Core players, don't HA all day, or most of the day, and the ones that do require ranks, I'm incapable of "Farming the Meta."

I'm still hoping for a Guild that would want me, that DOES Heroes' Ascent a LOT, and will not scream at me for making errors. Not having much luck on the first two things. I require activity, I don't know if it's a lot to ask, but I can't join a non-active HA Guild.

I usually advertise myself as a "Rit LFG." I choose Ritualist because I have every single Elite unlocked except one(Sig of Spirits, Which is not very useful IMO) and mostly due to my love for Ritualists xD.

Whenever I can't get in a group I just watch what other Rits do on the Observer.

43 Fame right now...slow...but it's going up, once I'm R3 things will be a lot easier, hopefully. And also hope I can find a active Guild that is HA focused before that, would be nice ^^.

Edit: I wish you could see Buffs and Debuffs on people without clicking on them, so I can see who Weapon Spells are put on without clicking on everyone xD.

Edit: Done looking for Guilds, Due to a friend from a friend ^^, it'd odd, lol, but still want to meet some people that I can HA with ^^.

There are a few things I would like to point out for you (Don't take take offensivly):
1) Rits these days don't go further than the splinter bitch... I'm sorry, that's the way it is. If you wanna play rit, it's exactly the same for a shitway than it is for a balanced. Spam splinter on frontline/para's, use some a-raged, put a bloodsong down.
In a balanced, 99% of the time, you will also have to play Snare with Foes, Grasping earth -and trident-. Ok, snarnig requires some skill, but let me tell you this:
I myself bodyblock more AND longer WITHOUT any snares than most people do with a bar filled with them. (2 Years of HA experience tought me 1 thing: "Perfect" bodyblocks, and I mean perfect, ask anyong who faced me 1 on 1 Relic run, you do NOT want to be the Relic Runner when I'm in front of you

)

2) You ONLY play rit, change that Attitude. At the moment, I can name U 7-8 people who played nothing but "bitch-bars" and actually think they are good balanced players. I myself, every time, get called "ritspiker" (which I only did for about 20% of my fame) by a certain player (I won't give out name *cought* BONGO *cough*) even tough he played 2 bars in his intire HA carreer (he's r12 aswell): Fire Ele and Paragon.

If you want to improve, don't be anyone's bitch all the time, it's that simple. Once again, I can name U 7-8 people who you ONLY see running 1 build all the time, the build they "grew up with". (E.G. There is so many R11-12 "Rits" now, and ALL u see them play is Weapon Rit, because everyone who they play with -and they themselves know it aswell, but they refuses to accept it- knows they can't run anything else...)
Spam: "Player Lfg -Can run any bar-" and you already opened up the criteria by 90% for people to "want" you...

There are 5 kind of HA-guilds at the moment:

1) The popular ones that still play their OP gimmick all the time. ([pimp], [meow], [Any random rspike guild], ...)
Unlikely you will be able to join, because they usually have the core of 8-10 people needed

2) The -what I like to call- meta-guilds. ([mOwl], [any random A/D spike guild], [any random sway guild], ...)
These guilds usually live as long as the gimmick, and sometimes expand the lifetime of a gimmick by adding something to it.
E.G.: Droknars added the Fire Eles to the original sway, so that it could evolve in the -probably- most OP button-bash ever. (Besides Nr/Tranq)
These are kinda like the (1) category, and IF they manage to survive long enough, they will turn out in the (1) category. Most guilds, though, won't survive much longer than the gimmick, and will thus die along with it.
Most likely you WILL be able to join these, but for every guild that lives past it's fundationed gimmick (Droknars, mOwl and some others managed to live through +-2-3 gimmicks) there is 10 other ones that simply die along with the gimmick. So be prepared for some "easy" fame, but don't expect it to last longer than the gimmick they play will.

3) The inactive old school guilds. ([ eE] -my guild, electronic empire, also consists out of former [NaNa] and [Blow] guildies, [TV], [Insert any random inactive guild that was well known in the past for a long period of time])
These guilds are most known because of their rep. E.G.: [ eE] is known for the ritspike we ran when it came out. [TV] is known for their amazing skill within the Rspike line of HA.
These guilds, I would say, affected the HA meta most -together with the category (4)- by either modding or making new builds. E.G.: [TV] popularized the 3R,1P,1Rt rspike,[ eE] popularized ritspike in both HA and GvG, ...
Unlikely you'll be able to join these, simply because you won't find many members. [ eE] currently still has 10 members who are reasonably active, but simply not in HA no more. We do however, occasionally HA, but purely for fun, and sometimes we might end up with only 2 fame for 4-5 hours of play.

4) The active old school guilds. ([GANK], Pretty much the only one I would say)
What can I say about these, EVERYONE somewhat familiar to HA knows [GANK] or [ CC]. [GANK] simply is [ConsumeChicken] reformed. This single guild affected HA meta by tremendous amount, it's not even worth starting on WHAT they might have changed... This guild still has alot of active members, however, from what I've heard (I'm friends with alot of the core) they barely play together no more, and pretty much always individually pug with Alliance. -Most of their alliance is category (1) guilds-
Knowing the Leader well, you can do 2 things to easily join this guild:
-If you're a girl it's very easy, got on vent, talk to him and you're in (Sorry red, it's the truth )
-If you're prepared for some sliming (Don't know english word, but sucking up to your boss? ) and complimenting red all the time, you'll get in aswell ^^
However, unlikely you'll play alot with them, or even with Alliance, and you merely got a cool tag, and you'll find yourself in HA id1 pugging just as often. You do however got a cool tag, that might help you get into good groups -Hi, I'm unranked, but I'm in the core of [GANK]-

5) Alternative Guilds ([Ekin], don't know any others)
These guilds run self-made builds and get good at it. Best example I can find at this moment is [Ekin], who are surprisingly good at the Necro Dark Aura/Contagion Bomb...
Some guilds from category (1) and (3) fit into here aswell, meaningly that they MADE the gimmick thus for them, it's their "own" build, but for everyone else who doesn't know any better, they are the next best gimmick guild.
I myself with [ eE], [NaNa] and [Blow] made over 5-6 meta-builds. People didn't realize that I was in fact the creator of these builds, and thus not the next best /copy noob. (Face it, making a build, into a certain extend gives U "more" the right to run it)
You MIGHT be able to join these, but be prepared to run crazy builds, with fame actually depending on how good you are...

Teh Jace · May 24, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

I myself bodyblock more AND longer WITHOUT any snares than most people do with a bar filled with them. (2 Years of HA experience tought me 1 thing: "Perfect" bodyblocks, and I mean perfect, ask anyong who faced me 1 on 1 Relic run, you do NOT want to be the Relic Runner when I'm in front of you

)

Yes if u face a retarded runner who has never heard of the /stuck command its possible.

There is actually a lot of builds to play (for example I play 2x mesmer (pblock, esurge, no para) with leeloof (we also played 2x bsurge but... it was weird pretty much), 3x ele (water, blinder, fire) with my AMp). Frenchies (SuX, disbanded FAME) tend to play 3x melee and almost zero defense. And I could go on. I dont play rspike, ritspike, bspike.. not because these are bad builds but because they are boring as pve.

Higher ranks are willing to experiment more than low ranked ppl cuz they care about fun.

@Nature Loves Me: I agree with borat. Ritualists in sway are even worse than R/D. It is a position for slaves. Even a fire ele requires more skill than sway ritu (at least fire ele has to search for ppl who ball up). Ritu snarer is something different (relic run, atenchamber, HoH... he has to be pro).

But face it... in balanced build every proffesion is button-mashing but RC and mesmer.

Killed u man · May 24, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Jace

But face it... in balanced build every proffesion is button-mashing but RC and mesmer.

Omg, the first guy to acknowledge this besides me on this forum

Wow, U just went +1 on my respect list, Jace

There is nothing more sad that "balanced" players in HA think they are good, because they know how to spam WoH/MB/Rodgorts/Spears/Chants/Shock (Face it, Shock Warrior in HA is not even close to what it is in GvG)/...

You made me feel better imo, we should preach this vision to the many "balanced" players who think they are better than the rest of us

Nature Loves Me · May 24, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

There are a few things I would like to point out for you (Don't take take offensivly):
1) Rits these days don't go further than the splinter bitch... I'm sorry, that's the way it is. If you wanna play rit, it's exactly the same for a shitway than it is for a balanced. Spam splinter on frontline/para's, use some a-raged, put a bloodsong down.
In a balanced, 99% of the time, you will also have to play Snare with Foes, Grasping earth -and trident-. Ok, snarnig requires some skill, but let me tell you this:
I myself bodyblock more AND longer WITHOUT any snares than most people do with a bar filled with them. (2 Years of HA experience tought me 1 thing: "Perfect" bodyblocks, and I mean perfect, ask anyong who faced me 1 on 1 Relic run, you do NOT want to be the Relic Runner when I'm in front of you

)

2) You ONLY play rit, change that Attitude. At the moment, I can name U 7-8 people who played nothing but "bitch-bars" and actually think they are good balanced players. I myself, every time, get called "ritspiker" (which I only did for about 20% of my fame) by a certain player (I won't give out name *cought* BONGO *cough*) even tough he played 2 bars in his intire HA carreer (he's r12 aswell): Fire Ele and Paragon.

If you want to improve, don't be anyone's bitch all the time, it's that simple. Once again, I can name U 7-8 people who you ONLY see running 1 build all the time, the build they "grew up with". (E.G. There is so many R11-12 "Rits" now, and ALL u see them play is Weapon Rit, because everyone who they play with -and they themselves know it aswell, but they refuses to accept it- knows they can't run anything else...)
Spam: "Player Lfg -Can run any bar-" and you already opened up the criteria by 90% for people to "want" you...

There are 5 kind of HA-guilds at the moment:

1) The popular ones that still play their OP gimmick all the time. ([pimp], [meow], [Any random rspike guild], ...)
Unlikely you will be able to join, because they usually have the core of 8-10 people needed

2) The -what I like to call- meta-guilds. ([mOwl], [any random A/D spike guild], [any random sway guild], ...)
These guilds usually live as long as the gimmick, and sometimes expand the lifetime of a gimmick by adding something to it.
E.G.: Droknars added the Fire Eles to the original sway, so that it could evolve in the -probably- most OP button-bash ever. (Besides Nr/Tranq)
These are kinda like the (1) category, and IF they manage to survive long enough, they will turn out in the (1) category. Most guilds, though, won't survive much longer than the gimmick, and will thus die along with it.
Most likely you WILL be able to join these, but for every guild that lives past it's fundationed gimmick (Droknars, mOwl and some others managed to live through +-2-3 gimmicks) there is 10 other ones that simply die along with the gimmick. So be prepared for some "easy" fame, but don't expect it to last longer than the gimmick they play will.

3) The inactive old school guilds. ([ eE] -my guild, electronic empire, also consists out of former [NaNa] and [Blow] guildies, [TV], [Insert any random inactive guild that was well known in the past for a long period of time])
These guilds are most known because of their rep. E.G.: [ eE] is known for the ritspike we ran when it came out. [TV] is known for their amazing skill within the Rspike line of HA.
These guilds, I would say, affected the HA meta most -together with the category (4)- by either modding or making new builds. E.G.: [TV] popularized the 3R,1P,1Rt rspike,[ eE] popularized ritspike in both HA and GvG, ...
Unlikely you'll be able to join these, simply because you won't find many members. [ eE] currently still has 10 members who are reasonably active, but simply not in HA no more. We do however, occasionally HA, but purely for fun, and sometimes we might end up with only 2 fame for 4-5 hours of play.

4) The active old school guilds. ([GANK], Pretty much the only one I would say)
What can I say about these, EVERYONE somewhat familiar to HA knows [GANK] or [ CC]. [GANK] simply is [ConsumeChicken] reformed. This single guild affected HA meta by tremendous amount, it's not even worth starting on WHAT they might have changed... This guild still has alot of active members, however, from what I've heard (I'm friends with alot of the core) they barely play together no more, and pretty much always individually pug with Alliance. -Most of their alliance is category (1) guilds-
Knowing the Leader well, you can do 2 things to easily join this guild:
-If you're a girl it's very easy, got on vent, talk to him and you're in (Sorry red, it's the truth )
-If you're prepared for some sliming (Don't know english word, but sucking up to your boss? ) and complimenting red all the time, you'll get in aswell ^^
However, unlikely you'll play alot with them, or even with Alliance, and you merely got a cool tag, and you'll find yourself in HA id1 pugging just as often. You do however got a cool tag, that might help you get into good groups -Hi, I'm unranked, but I'm in the core of [GANK]-

5) Alternative Guilds ([Ekin], don't know any others)
These guilds run self-made builds and get good at it. Best example I can find at this moment is [Ekin], who are surprisingly good at the Necro Dark Aura/Contagion Bomb...
Some guilds from category (1) and (3) fit into here aswell, meaningly that they MADE the gimmick thus for them, it's their "own" build, but for everyone else who doesn't know any better, they are the next best gimmick guild.
I myself with [ eE], [NaNa] and [Blow] made over 5-6 meta-builds. People didn't realize that I was in fact the creator of these builds, and thus not the next best /copy noob. (Face it, making a build, into a certain extend gives U "more" the right to run it)
You MIGHT be able to join these, but be prepared to run crazy builds, with fame actually depending on how good you are...

If I was to say I can play any profession, it'd be a half-lie, because Im not experienced in all professions in Heroes' Ascent. I could tkae a look at any skill bar, figure out how to use it, but like some post said, HA is a whole new Ball Game, and for me to know I can 100% play a profession in HA, I need to practice first. Whenever I am able to Organize groups with my friends and some Guildies, I run whatever build that is free that we can't find a person for, and I never form a Sway group with friends, I only put up with it in PuGs.

When I first went to HA I tried to advertise myself as a Mesmer, seeing as at that time I had the most experience with a mesmer. No one Pm'd/invited me, so I just went back to RA to interrupt noobs and bother monks =\

I get bored of playing Ritualist, so I sometimes go on my monk and try to get in a group, but the only ones interested in a monk are ranked or Randomway.

I'll play any role my friends give me to play and play it as best I can, but when we fail like our first or 2nd attempt half the group Rage Quits and I'm never able to get fully accustomed to playing a Build. I have a PvP Ranger, Necro, Mesmer, and Monk, 'cause those are usually what I go as, occaionally delete one of them here and there in order to make a diff character.

I'm just observing professions I play the most with the observer. Extremely hard for me to learn to play all the professions effectively with just the observer.

TaCktiX · May 25, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

How to get into HA without going lame:
- Take a hard look at your skills as a player, and pick 2-3 professions that you can play nearly anything on (mine are Warrior, Ranger, Monk)
- Have the skills/equipment unlocked to run most (if not all) builds on those professions (UAX is even better)
- Have templates of all the builds you know how to run available.
- Sit in ID1 and wait for a balanced to ask for people. If rankless, aim for R3-4 groups, if R3-4, R5-6 groups. Use your expertise in the profession and build you are using to con your way into the group. Don't ask, don't tell, don't have a title up.
- Get on vent, be attentive, be responsive to criticism. Unless the group feels their standard is being met (R3-4 really can't tell, but that's another matter entirely), never reveal fame count or rank.
- If a good impression is made, ask for friends list additions when the group starts falling apart. Note availability and interest in getting better. People take a responsive learner over a stuck-up R9 any day of the week.
- Rinse, repeat. A friends list will be built over time, and if a person's skill is up to par, a person will get invited to groups. Honed skills means more friends, more invites.

This is more or less what I did, except I Rit spiked to Rank 4. I have 593 fame as of this posting, and I get invited into R8/9 balanced groups very often.