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Juicey Shake · Jul 17, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

TA is a joke w/ friends~~ after way too much gvg and quite a bit of hoh it's like killing minotaur back in july of last yr.. lol. a couple of decent teams come through, so a challenge is always nice

Divineshadows · Jul 17, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by D E L E T E D

I'd love to run into the people saying that TA is a joke to run into eat,ta,vis, etc . etc. and to see if then earning a glad title is easy.

Add One Hit Quitters [QQ] (reformed Char) to the list. I think they are the only guild team that has ever had me frustrated, but it was very late at night. So I would like to face them when I am more awake. Also, [ROFL] teams have given some of the best matches as well.

It is odd how some of the highest ranked GvG guilds are quite horrible in TA (and I have a few in mind), while others are quite good in TA.

Foe · Jul 27, 2006, 08:42 AM // 08:42

Glad title no differenet than rank, for months it was 8 dis's of W/R's, you all ran it . Glad title is just a grind but its not alone. Atleast in TA there's variety and some inovation. "I Will Avenge You"

dont lie ...80% of your fame....so dont say things like " rabble rabble glad title just a grind" Is funny how hard they try to convince you that they didnt cheapen rank. Should make a rank 20 emote in Nightfall thats a dead pet. Ppl who say RA is a cake walk are liars, unless your a quitter its luck of the draw or your a good boon prot but those are few.
Im beating a very dead horse for sure. Flame away

Yanman.be · Jul 27, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Guys, just go farm zaishen elite and get your gladiator points there.

Zui · Jul 27, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Zashien Elite doesn't work anymore, they nerfed it. Of course.. They nerfed it far too late..

JiggyFly · Jul 27, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51

RA isn't hard, but I'm really not willing to waste 40-50+ minutes of my time for one Gladiator point. Unless you team is knocking out 1-3 minute victories, it's not worth it at all to go through 4-5 minute matches 25 times, which is really the only reason alot of people don't have the title.

remmeh · Jul 27, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

It is odd how some of the highest ranked GvG guilds are quite horrible in TA (and I have a few in mind), while others are quite good in TA.

I have noticed this as well... I've faced the OTHER STD in TA (the one with the silver cape) and they were absolutely terrible. And WM, RenO, etc... (well WM isn't that bad, but they're pretty bad) *shrug* 4v4 is a pretty different animal from 8v8.

JR · Jul 27, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

It is odd how some of the highest ranked GvG guilds are quite horrible in TA (and I have a few in mind), while others are quite good in TA.

I suppose it really depends on the attitude of the individual guilds. Some play it seriously as just another form of competitive PvP, and some just play it as a less serious alternative to GvG where they can blow off some steam.

I don't honestly think that a guild which is excellent in GvG can suck in TA that bad, if they take it seriously at all.

Divineshadows · Jul 27, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by JR-

I suppose it really depends on the attitude of the individual guilds. Some play it seriously as just another form of competitive PvP, and some just play it as a less serious alternative to GvG where they can blow off some steam.

I think oftentimes that some of these guilds are testing one of their 4/4 splits in TA which can make for effective testing (due to the variety of teams you can end up facing) but are not properly metagamed for TA. For instance, [EvIL] had two warriors one of which had Charge! With no points of control in TA that require the need for fast team movement, I can see no reason to use Charge! in TA unless you are running 3 melee and 1 monk.

I know on other occassions I have seen guild groups run a group of 4 in TA and then see those same 4 character builds as part of their GvG build in observer mode later that night.

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Originally Posted by JR-

I don't honestly think that a guild which is excellent in GvG can suck in TA that bad, if they take it seriously at all.

There is a very specific one I have in mind that has been consistently in the top 20 region for seasons 2 and 3. They also finished pretty high during the 3 day blitz season. Whenever my guild has run into them in TA, they have always lost very quickly and decisively independent of which build we happen to be running at the time and their copious amounts of whining in the local channel leads me to believe that they are trying to take TA seriously.

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Guys, just go farm zaishen elite and get your gladiator points there.

If A-net re-introduced this bug, then cryface Q_Q. Players exploiting a bug like this waters down what the gladiator title is supposed to mean. To quote a guildmate of mine, "Zaishen Farm Is Bad".

Servant of Kali · Aug 02, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Fixed a bug that allowed players to earn Gladiator Title points in Zaishen arenas.

Im sorry but does this mean the bug was STILL there? It makes gladiator title worthless now, if someone was able to farm for 2 freakin months.

I cant believe this game can be that bugged. How come HA rank isnt bugged? How would r9+ people feel if i could just farm henchmen somewhere for it??

Wasteland Squidget · Aug 02, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

There is a very specific one I have in mind that has been consistently in the top 20 region for seasons 2 and 3. They also finished pretty high during the 3 day blitz season. Whenever my guild has run into them in TA, they have always lost very quickly and decisively independent of which build we happen to be running at the time and their copious amounts of whining in the local channel leads me to believe that they are trying to take TA seriously.

Understand that a couple months ago, a coordinated group could bring just about any build to TA and win just about every match. A lot of the current top guilds are used to TA being a place where they can go and 'nubstomp' without thinking too much or playing your hardest. Only recently has it really become a challening PvP type for coordinated teams, and a lot of guilds simply aren't prepared. They go into TA expecting to win and are naturally annoyed when they get crushed every match. That doesn't mean they'd be bad at TA if they made a serious effort.

I know when I've made TA teams with NUKE in the last couple months we haven't usually won that many matches. The team of players are used to working together as a squad and coordinated enough, but we have no real experience with the TA metagame or what's being run at the moment. In 4v4 even a relatively small build advantage is extremely difficult to outplay, so we end up losing a lot of matches against less coordinated teams simply because they brought the right tools. Normally by the time we see what's currently being run and what builds might counter it, we're ready to do something else.

In short, I agree with JR. I think just about every top team could easily become good at 4v4 if they were willing to put the time in and learn the TA metagame. A lot of teams don't have the time or inclination to play that much TA though.

sir lockt · Aug 02, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

Im sorry but does this mean the bug was STILL there? It makes gladiator title worthless now, if someone was able to farm for 2 freakin months.

I cant believe this game can be that bugged. How come HA rank isnt bugged? How would r9+ people feel if i could just farm henchmen somewhere for it??

The latest update (1/8) fixed this, so yes it was still bugged. But during the special events (cant recall which one...but some recent) you got double glads points, which also nerfs the importance of the title...

Yanman.be · Aug 02, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

I got a few points with it, but most of them still come from RA with my sin...

Servant of Kali · Aug 02, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

wow great, seems like i'll be taking off my glad title. I dont want people to look at me n think "ooooh look who farmed zaishen".

Sparrow · Aug 02, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

If the bug was reintroduced then that bums me out.

I have been asked twice point-blank whether I farmed Zaishen. Once when I was a Fierce Gladiator oh so long ago, and lately when I had Deadly. And another time I was displaying Deadly in RA and someone with Mighty said "my title is better than yours" presumably indicating he thought I Zaishen-farmed it. And no, I never got any glad points from Zaishen.

To be honest I really don't display my title anymore. I stopped a long time ago. You don't get respect for it anyway, so why bother? I would rather not be accused of being a cheater just for playing hard.

If people ask me what rank glad I am I display it. Mainly it's a competition among guildies. It's fun seeing when people get the next rank of Glad. It's fun being there when someone earns a new rank as well.

EDIT: However when I reach Terrifying you can be sure I'll display it. Should be within a week. This thing has been a long time coming. =)

Servant of Kali · Aug 03, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Nah forget it, i switched.. now i have Protector of Tyria rank displayed. Wooohooo.

/sarcasm off

Great job Anet.

remmeh · Aug 03, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Speaking of which.... YOU CAN NOW ENTER TEAM ARENAS ALONE! you can now rejoin your lost team =)

sno · Aug 03, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

As for the glad points not meaning anything, it's all in how you got them. If you got points in RA or from Zaishen, no one will know your name, and thus a lot of people may think you farmed your points. If you got your points stomping teams over and over in TA, people will remember it, and will eventually know you. Almost all of the higher ranked glads I've seen in town I recognize from playing against in TA, just as most players who TA often recognize [Eat] when they're against it. No one has ever accused me or anyone in my guild (that I know of) of farming our points, because they see us day after day blowing through teams in a guild group.

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To be honest I really don't display my title anymore. I stopped a long time ago. You don't get respect for it anyway, so why bother?

It's the title combined with memory. Most TA people play with pugs, so maintaining a reputation isn't easy (cough*Lobo*cough,) but once it's there, the title does demand respect. I get a little smile every time someone sees our tag from accross the map and says "oh no" in pub chat.

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Originally Posted by remmeh

Speaking of which.... YOU CAN NOW ENTER TEAM ARENAS ALONE! you can now rejoin your lost team =)

Only if you're quick

others can also join 'your' lost team. It does help when one of your team err7s at 9 wins, you can usually limp through another win with the w/mo you'll inevidably get. Sad that our guild actually tried doing the 1 win with 3 other guildies and then leave trick to finish out a point. So much work, for such little gain.

D E L E T E D · Aug 03, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16

its funny to think of how many times i have actually had someone e7 on the 8th or 9th win. i mean 78 or 79th time.

we used to fix this problem by just getting a group of 4, beating one team then three rage quit. Usually worked like a charm, until we got a W/Mo on our team because he didnt know how to leave the arena without shutting gw down. ha!

Servant of Kali · Aug 03, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Oh come on, i dont need title based on "memory". I like having cool title which is fun wherever i am, in PvE, in Fort Aspenwood, in RA TA it doesnt really matter where. I dont need a title which i will just flash in front of few people in TA which i know. You dont even need title for that! Those you beat will know you, title or not. That's why im asking, what's d point of the title?