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Daluz · Jun 05, 2008, 10:18 AM // 10:18

I just have a quick question,

Why do people use Conjure Frost instead of Lightning + Shock ?

Edit: Sorry, speaking in a Warriors bar ofcourse.

Targuil · Jun 05, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Shields against cold damage are not as usually used as lightning dmg.

Daluz · Jun 05, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Ah okay I understand, because of Elementalist and Ritualist spike skills I guess... still, is it worth trading that for a higher shock ?

Im speaking for a shock axe bar

Hodgie · Jun 05, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29

It depends what you want. I use [conjure frost] on my derv because i had a icy snathe if i had any other i would have used that. its all personal preference imo.

kranius · Jun 05, 2008, 01:36 PM // 13:36

cold damages are cool

SmokingHotImolation · Jun 05, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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cold damages are cool

oh, and 12chars

Ec]-[oMaN · Jun 05, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

Do me a favor and try running frenzy, shock, bulls, conjure lightning and tell me how fast you run out of energy, that's why.

JR · Jun 05, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by Daluz

I just have a quick question,

Why do people use Conjure Frost instead of Lightning + Shock ?

Edit: Sorry, speaking in a Warriors bar ofcourse.

Skill slots.

Generally speaking you only have the slots free for either shock OR a conjure.

[Eviscerate][Body Blow][Disrupting Chop][Bull's Strike][Shock][Frenzy][Rush][Resurrection Signet]
[Empty][Executioners Strike][Distracting Strike][Empty][Conjure Frost][Empty][Empty][Empty]

Conjure Frost is cool because Polly uses it, and Polly sounds like Pally, and Pally was an awesome warrior too.

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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

Do me a favor and try running frenzy, shock, bulls, conjure lightning and tell me how fast you run out of energy, that's why.

With the recharge on conjures I really don't think they make a big dent in your energy.

Shendaar · Jun 05, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by JR

With the recharge on conjures I really don't think they make a big dent in your energy.

It actually does make a difference because you can't stay in your zealous set to help maintain your energy. I would never run both Shock and Conjure on the same bar ever.

IMMORTAlMITCH · Jun 05, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

It's doable to run shock + conjure on sword, on axe you're not gonna have any energy.

Even running dstrike on a conjure axe war will be pretty tough on energy unless you're a pussy that never frenzies.

Daluz · Jun 05, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

Do me a favor and try running frenzy, shock, bulls, conjure lightning and tell me how fast you run out of energy, that's why.

I usually use a +5 energy spear /20% enchanting when using Conjure Lightning, as long as I'm not spamming shock it isn't too bad, but I guess if you have a long battle it could become a problem

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But thanks, I guess i understand now.

IMMORTAlMITCH · Jun 05, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Use an Adept Air Staff of Enchanting with a strength and honor inscription instead.

You can do some serious wanding damage with that as well.

Ec]-[oMaN · Jun 05, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Daluz

I usually use a +5 energy spear /20% enchanting when using Conjure Lightning, as long as I'm not spamming shock it isn't too bad, but I guess if you have a long battle it could become a problem

.

But thanks, I guess i understand now.

All that happens is as time goes on, you shock less and less, to the point where bringing it was a wasted skill slot.

Riotgear · Jun 05, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

I think Frost was chosen because it means the people you're beating up can't resist Spear of Lightning/B-Surge shit with the same shield set.

Byron · Jun 05, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Conjure lightning hits through iron mist. GG nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

I think Frost was chosen because it means the people you're beating up can't resist Spear of Lightning/B-Surge shit with the same shield set.

For sure.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Jun 05, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Shock + Conjure is hard on the energy, and IMO you dont need both

IMMORTAlMITCH · Jun 05, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

I think Frost was chosen because it means the people you're beating up can't resist Spear of Lightning/B-Surge shit with the same shield set.

That and Conjure Flame ended Ice Prison.

Mr Fizzle · Jun 05, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Shock is too much energy/exhaustion AND frost has a cooler animation.

erk · Jun 06, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

The smart players have multiple shields in their backpack they adjust depending on what they are facing, cold and earth shields are not as common as lighting and fire so, a warrior can average a bit more damage across the team with frost, in the scheme of things it's not very much

It can also depend on your team build. eg. it's quite common if there are fire Ele's casting Mark of Rodgorts for the warriors to run fire weapons to keep up the burning. Another couple of more unlikely scenarios are Spinal shivers needing cold or Thunderclap needs lightning, though you will see those more in PvE or RA.

icedwhitemocha · Jun 06, 2008, 06:06 AM // 06:06

If you run both you lose your interrupt slot, and no interrupt means you fail.

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Originally Posted by JR

Conjure Frost is cool because Polly uses it, and Polly sounds like Pally, and Pally was an awesome warrior too.

qft