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deya · Jun 16, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Channeling. HA monking is like spamming with passion.

supa tim · Jun 16, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by deya

Channeling. HA monking is like spamming with passion.

Uninstal GW now plz

Aera · Jun 16, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by supa tim

Uninstal GW now plz

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Originally Posted by supa idiot

Im also not offending any1, life restorer, so id appreciate if u respect other people on this forum.

Grz,

Timmeh

I see irony there.

Killed u man · Jun 16, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Aera

I see irony there.

I laughed...

Sethellington · Jun 16, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by TaCktiX

Who here has been DShotted by the ghostly a disturbingly large amount? If anything, THAT is the #1 skill.

yeah i agree with that, otherwise it stays at meta.

LifesRestorer · Jun 16, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by Aera

I see irony there.

LOL.

come to think of it has anyone put grasping earth on their list? it's pretty win and goes hand in hand with ward vs foes

supa tim · Jun 16, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by Aera

I see irony there.

Since im playing monk in HA for... well for about 2 months after I installed GW, I feel offended by some1 posting stuff like this.

I try to be nice to any1 not offending me, but vs stuff like this I have to open my mouth. Which is the idea of a forum, right?

Grz,

Tim

LifesRestorer · Jun 16, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Channeling gives monks near unlimited energy if they can use it right. What's wrong with his statement?

supa tim · Jun 16, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

Channeling gives monks near unlimited energy if they can use it right. What's wrong with his statement?

He didnt consider the thing called "Enchant removal"

OR

What this topic is about (good skills):

D-shot by Mr. Ghostly Hero
Diversion.
Any other form of interupting

LifesRestorer · Jun 16, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

obviously thats a conditional, and enchantments should always be covered by the other monk or a tainted necro. when you put channeling up, it should be covered by spotless mind from the HB or AoS from the RC to prevent getting gangbanged by R/Ds.

if there's not a mesmer inbound, you should be finding a good channelling hotspot and spamming your stuff like no tomorrow.

supa tim · Jun 16, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

obviously thats a conditional, and enchantments should always be covered by the other monk or a tainted necro. when you put channeling up, it should be covered by spotless mind from the HB or AoS from the RC to prevent getting gangbanged by R/Ds.

if there's not a mesmer inbound, you should be finding a good channelling hotspot and spamming your stuff like no tomorrow.

ye and things like rend enchants/gaze of contempt, Profane, time removing (it takes 1 seconds to cover ur channeling with 1/4th cast spell). And covering the other monk every time requires alot of teamwork.

Then theres the thing called spreading out.
If I ask 10 people why you should spread out, they only give 1 reason 9/10 times: "coz u wont get hit by aoe"

The truth is, spreading out also makes the enemy monks unable to get much energy from channeling.

Ofc on maps like coutyard/HoH theres much balling, but when capped and under pressure from 2 teams, believe me, its not the energy your lacking in.

Grz,

Timmeh

PS: As a monk I dont find it hard to play vs sway or A/D spike, but vs any other team with a GOOD mesmer its not just spamming your skills.

Arya Nibelrund · Jun 16, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

If a monk cannot keep up channeling 90% of time he's BAD, whatever he plays against (if a mesmer camps him and gaze like a madman then blame also your midline).

Jesses Paradigm · Jun 16, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Splinter weapon

pz

jk

Snow Bunny · Jun 16, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by supa tim

Uninstal GW now plz

Wait.
You just asked Urza of [LuM] to uninstall?

whoru?

Also

PD/Channeling/RC/Ward/zzzzzzzz

LifesRestorer · Jun 17, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Originally Posted by supa tim

ye and things like rend enchants/gaze of contempt, Profane,

rend enchants/gaze are normally only taken in spike teams and therefore are not wasted on removing single enchantments from backline characters when they could just kill something instead. if you're standing in profane you're a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot.

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time removing (it takes 1 seconds to cover ur channeling with 1/4th cast spell).

there is only 1 skill in the game that removes enchants within 1/4 of a second, and it has a conditional that the target must be knocked down for it to work. this leaves a huge opening for a 1/4 cover to go on, especially if it is co-ordinated over vent.

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And covering the other monk every time requires alot of teamwork.

covering the other monk requires minimal teamwork. all it requires is a call 'cover enchant 7/8' on vent and it's done.

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The truth is, spreading out also makes the enemy monks unable to get much energy from channeling.

I have been monking in HA for over 2 years and to this day, i have never encountered a team where i can't find a channeling pocket of at least +3 energy. the area for channeling to work is much larger than that of AoE skills and following whoever has the ghostly nets you AT LEAST a +2.
this makes spamming skills on recharge pretty much free.

Let's take a look back at the original quote

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Channeling. HA monking is like spamming with passion.

this statement is true, because that's exactly what channeling allows you to do. spam skills on recharge, for free. quit trying to cover up your mistakes of yelling at good, well respected people with correct information by throwing in a bunch of conditional circumstances.

Of course you don't spam skills on recharge if your channeling gets stripped, you'll run out of energy.
Of course you don't spam skills on recharge if theres a mesmer camping you, he's gonna make you eat diversions, shames and will steal your channeling.
I would have thought those were pretty much a given. the statement is true for the majority of games, as the majority of teams don't have a good mesmer, if one at all.

supa tim · Jun 17, 2008, 12:19 PM // 12:19

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Wait.
You just asked Urza of [LuM] to uninstall?

whoru?

First:
(For the second time

I DO NOT care who I am talking to.

second:

Who?

And I'm sorry for not observing, since its not interesting at all.

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

rend enchants/gaze are normally only taken in spike teams and therefore are not wasted on removing single enchantments from backline characters when they could just kill something instead. if you're standing in profane you're a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot.

most PD/PB mesmers take Rend/Gaze if they dont have to bring ress.

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

there is only 1 skill in the game that removes enchants within 1/4 of a second, and it has a conditional that the target must be knocked down for it to work. this leaves a huge opening for a 1/4 cover to go on, especially if it is co-ordinated over vent.

You didnt get my point. If you want to cover your channeling with a 1/4 cast enchant (HB for instance) it still takes you 1 second to apply (aftercast) so its rly easy to time a rend touch (tho faking vs these noobs is fun)/inspired enchantment.

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

covering the other monk requires minimal teamwork. all it requires is a call 'cover enchant 7/8' on vent and it's done.

Still, when under pressure and with the vent lagg sometimes the other monk has to w8 1 second and focus on your bar b4 he covers.
Anyway I dont call for it many times, mayb I should try more.

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

I have been monking in HA for over 2 years and to this day, i have never encountered a team where i can't find a channeling pocket of at least +3 energy. the area for channeling to work is much larger than that of AoE skills and following whoever has the ghostly nets you AT LEAST a +2.
this makes spamming skills on recharge pretty much free.

When your so-called spamming your skills its probably hard to keep moving?
Anyway ye +2 but its not only 5 energy skills you use right?
Thing off Infuse, HP, SB...

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

Let's take a look back at the original quote

this statement is true, because that's exactly what channeling allows you to do. spam skills on recharge, for free. quit trying to cover up your mistakes of yelling at good, well respected people with correct information by throwing in a bunch of conditional circumstances.

Those circumstances happen in any match vs. any proper team.

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

Of course you don't spam skills on recharge if your channeling gets stripped, you'll run out of energy.

Yes, but Its your job to keep the team alive isnt it?
So where's the healing/protting comming from if your not able to spam skills?

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

Of course you don't spam skills on recharge if theres a mesmer camping you, he's gonna make you eat diversions, shames and will steal your channeling.
I would have thought those were pretty much a given. the statement is true for the majority of games, as the majority of teams don't have a good mesmer, if one at all.

But that's Exactly my point. Thats what makes the statement untrue.

I'm also NOT saying I have problems getting my energy from Channeling. Its just that deya is implying that monking in HA is easy. But then why when im playing with another monk, or midlining, I still c people that cant heal/prot for shit?

I think I kept it nice here, please keep it like that.

Grz,

Timmeh

infymys · Jun 17, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by supa tim

First:
(For the second time

I DO NOT care who I am talking to.

second:

Who?

And I'm sorry for not observing, since its not interesting at all.

Maybe you should observe and pay more attention to who you call out. As I recall, you called one of the top monks in the game a sway scrub and now this. You spout all this knowledge which is argumentative at best. Maybe we should be asking who the hell you are.

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Originally Posted by supa tim

most PD/PB mesmers take Rend/Gaze if they dont have to bring ress.

Then they are bad mesmers if they need that extra slot for more enchant removal.

Teh Jace · Jun 17, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Channeling is a perfectly balanced skill for HA. Against good teams it wont help u, on uber retarded altar maps channeltanking is the only way how to save team from billions of heats (apart from harm).
And a good mesmer will punish u for spamming anyways. So it might soon go like spam, spam, spam WTF 3 skills diverted?

Snow Bunny · Jun 17, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

I'm pretty sure several hundred of my HA matches involved me standing somewhere in the vicinity of the altar spamming RC on a 40/20/20 staff.

Channeling > HA

supa tim · Jun 17, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

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Originally Posted by infymys

Maybe you should observe and pay more attention to who you call out. As I recall, you called one of the top monks in the game a sway scrub and now this. You spout all this knowledge which is argumentative at best. Maybe we should be asking who the hell you are.

For the third time:

I DONT CARE who I am talking to, Im commenting about what some1 says, not who some1 is.

I said I dont Observe because I have better things to do, plus I dont GvG.

I dont care if you dont know who I am, I care if u understand what I write on this forum.