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Old Jun 08, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #41
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try to interrupt a ghostly on king of the hill + song of concentration with a powerblock bar for 30+ seconds

powerblock might be better in 1v1 situation but the necessarity to have as many hard interrupts as possible makes pd the superior skill in HA.

I'd actualy wonder which teammate is screwing up things so bad that the own ghost can't cap instead of making sure that I can interrupt the enemy ghosts 30+ times.
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Old Jun 08, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #42
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Hey guyz i heard interruptin SoC b4 interruptin Ghostly wz hard
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #43
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08   #44
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My top 10 HA skills in order of most useful to least useful. Note that almost every team has at least one copy of these skills.

[Resurrection Signet]
[Channeling]
[Restore Condition]
[Infuse Health]
[Reversal of Fortune]
[Spirit Bond]
[Ward Against Foes]
[Make Haste]
[Aura of Stability]
[Song of Concentration]

[Holy Veil] is a close 11th.
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15   #45
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[Holy Veil] is a close 11th.
Holy veil is useless now coz of all the enchant removals..

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[Cry Of Frustration]
[Aura Of Stability]
[Savannah Heat]
[Channeling]
[Magebane Shot]
[Healers Boon]
[Restore Condition]
[Rend Enchantments]
[Dust Trap]
[Rush]
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #46
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nah I think RoF is the best skill...well for monks personally as its uber fun to catch a spike with :P..aah
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26   #47
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I'd actualy wonder which teammate is screwing up things so bad that the own ghost can't cap instead of making sure that I can interrupt the enemy ghosts 30+ times.
what if your ghost dies and you have to wait 30sec before it gets resurrected and can attempt to recap?
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27   #48
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Holy veil is useless now coz of all the enchant removals..
pretty sure you're terrible and thats backed up by your comment about PD.
SoC is pretty useless most of the time but it's there when it's needed most, in halls to claim the win. PD is the same although it's also as game breaking as PB in a sense that if something dies you can lock out res sigs for long enough to pump out another kill, in which the cycle of death continues as they play with a vital player down (monk) for a long period of the match

Also, im pretty sure holy veil is as essential in relic running as make haste and aura of stability. not only does it slow down the duration of snares but it's ability to be precast also gives the runner a huge +1up on the snarer because the monk is 12 seconds ahead of him on hex removal
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #49
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Also, im pretty sure holy veil is as essential in relic running as make haste and aura of stability. not only does it slow down the duration of snares but it's ability to be precast also gives the runner a huge +1up on the snarer because the monk is 12 seconds ahead of him on hex removal
QFT, Holy Veil > Anything in HoH...

Only against trashbuilds (hexway etc) I would concider putting some converts on other characters, but usually 2 veils is ALL U need. (Simply because pre-veiling > hex stacking...
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #50
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #51
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QFT, Holy Veil > Anything in HoH...

Only against trashbuilds (hexway etc) I would concider putting some converts on other characters, but usually 2 veils is ALL U need. (Simply because pre-veiling > hex stacking...
Im not saying Holy veil isnt a good skill, but with the rend enchant/gaze of contempt meta on mesmers atm it doesnt belong at the top 10 IMO.

And about PD:
try to play PB for more than 1 run, ull notice the difference, that PB is actually usefull instead of only beeing handy at 1 point in the game.

Im also not offending any1, life restorer, so id appreciate if u respect other people on this forum.


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Old Jun 10, 2008, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #52
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quit feeding people bad info then
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #53
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what if your ghost dies and you have to wait 30sec before it gets resurrected and can attempt to recap?
On rare occassions that might happen. If it happens more often then you should look at your backline.

And if lucky, there is always a third team and your both opponents will be trying to interrupt each other as well.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54   #54
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Very often opposing teams won't let it happen you interrupting their ghostly for 30+ seconds. Depending on the other teams, i would not even try - perhaps getting one point more and thats it.

Then basically you want the "inferior" team to cap - the team you expect to lose altar soon. Thats what you can influence with a PBlock bar, too.

I don't like PD too much, but in HA with mighty SoC hardrezz chains und KotH in general of course, it is useful. I think most mesmers are fine with the non-elites in their bar most of the time.

Running pressure builds (with something like a ranger hardinterrupt or gale/shock combinations), i would prefer powerblock for better effect over time. For more spike oriented builds, you are fine with a PD Bar, using Shame, Diversion and Shatter (perhaps Blackout, too).

@Ate: I don't think this happens on rare occasions. Good teams attempt to timekill monks and ghostlys, nothing special imo. I would not blame my monks for getting trained by two teams.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15   #55
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quit feeding people bad info then
True, but that doesnt give u a reason to insult me.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 01:49 PM // 13:49   #56
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Powerblock is a horrible skill. Just about anyone can PB RC or Guradian and then it's gg. Too good of an effect.

PD is an awesome skill. Good PDs make average teams great and bad PDs make great teams 7/8.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #57
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My top 10 HA skills in order of most useful to least useful. Note that almost every team has at least one copy of these skills.

[Resurrection Signet]
[Channeling]
[Restore Condition]
[Infuse Health]
[Reversal of Fortune]
[Spirit Bond]
[Ward Against Foes]
[Make Haste]
[Aura of Stability]
[Song of Concentration]

[Holy Veil] is a close 11th.
Sway has no copys of those skills except rez.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #58
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Powerblock is a horrible skill. Just about anyone can PB RC or Guradian and then it's gg. Too good of an effect.

PD is an awesome skill. Good PDs make average teams great and bad PDs make great teams 7/8.
You are forgetting there are more skills on a bar than PB.
With PD on the other hand its wether PD or the other skills on its bar.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #59
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Anything that abuses expertise?

I think so.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #60
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Of all the skills suggested, only 1 of them is actually good.
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