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Ec]-[oMaN · Jul 11, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

So can we expect a real update come next Thursday? Two and a half months later this is all we get?

We are still pretty much riding on a stale broken state of the game that was put into motion since April....
Overall it looks like this small teaser is headed in a decent direction, hope to see many more skills hit though. However I'm dreading the constant trend of having things buffed to an extreme to force a meta only a select few wish.

Ben-A-BoO · Jul 11, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by makosi

So does the Ghostly Hero no longer get the benefit of Song of Concentration or is this change only for guild battles (like the spirit change)?

Good question, any answer yet confirmed?

Ec]-[oMaN · Jul 11, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/

"Miscellaneous
Chant and shout effects are no longer applied to allied Guild Battle NPCs."

Divinus Stella · Jul 11, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Rotation also got changed, i think Izzy went back to random maps on this one, Imperial is about the only isle i think i actually like.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Jul 11, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

I hope there is a BIGGER skill updating coming... a lot bigger.

Legendary Shiz · Jul 11, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz

I hope there is a BIGGER skill updating coming... a lot bigger.

People need to stop crying. There's a massive update coming up shortly, they just didn't want to do anything overly drastic right before the Guru Tourney.

C2K · Jul 11, 2008, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by Marverick

So [Shadow Fang] isn't affected by the aftercast? interesting......

Thats because no one really uses that one. Besides, removing the hex before any damage is done ends the spike.

Legendary Shiz · Jul 11, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by Marverick

So [Shadow Fang] isn't affected by the aftercast? interesting......

That's a miserable skill to use for tele spiking. Decent for a tele bulls every 45 seconds, nothing more.

Firstly it's a 45 second recharge which is pretty lulz for a spike, and once it's over/removed you tele back.

Ego · Jul 11, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Noone is going to use Shadow Fang on a decent Warrior bar with regular skills.

10 energy is really too much.

deya · Jul 11, 2008, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Very good update, a lot of the changes effect what rawr won last month with.

Anthem of weariness no longer affects NPC's.
Enfeebling Blood sacrifices more health.
The 3 copies of SoJ that rawr runs took a hit.
And the mantra change as well.

I don't know if it is enough to stop 5 healer builds from winning the mAT, but at least it shows Mitch is pulling the right strings

lol

So, according to you, anything that wins mAT should be nerfed?

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

how did you get that from what he said at all.

rawr wins by using stuff that will win them games, even if it is imba. The stuff he mentioned was imba or bugged.

yay

makosi · Jul 11, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by timebandit

Good question, any answer yet confirmed?

It turns out that these Chant/Shout changes are only effectual in GvG. The translated version didn't include this info but it does now.

RiKio · Jul 11, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Its me, or I am noticing some kind of Rollback to 2005? I mean, shadowsteps out, Dervish getting nerfed step by step ( Slow steps, but well...), Shouts and Chants not affecting NPCs...

I think Anet listens to forums and acts in the shadows

Snow Bunny · Jul 11, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by d00m1n470r

Noone is going to use Shadow Fang on a decent Warrior bar with regular skills.

10 energy is really too much.

Can you fit it on the old AoM derv you think?

Throw a shatterstone on top of that, and you have a half decent cover.

Captain Robo · Jul 11, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by RiKio

Its me, or I am noticing some kind of Rollback to 2005? I mean, shadowsteps out, Dervish getting nerfed step by step ( Slow steps, but well...), Shouts and Chants not affecting NPCs...

I think Anet listens to forums and acts in the shadows

I'd consider saddling back up if that were the case.

Ego · Jul 11, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Can you fit it on the old AoM derv you think?

Throw a shatterstone on top of that, and you have a half decent cover.

Sure, but you'd only be able to use it every 45 seconds so you have to ask yourself if it's really worth it.

Problem with Shatterstone is that it's easily shutdown and a PBlock Mesmer would stop the Elementalist pretty easily. (Or even just an interupt on Shatterstone kind of ruins the spike.)

And I am not sure which "old AoM derv" build you actually mean or which teambuild you mean either. (I am assuming the "be team spike" build with dual Sloth Hunters Shot Rangers?)

I wouldn't bother using Shadow Fang personally due to it being a hex and the extremely long recharge but if people really need a Shadowstep to win in this game I guess they have no choice.

Riotgear · Jul 11, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by deya

So, according to you, anything that wins mAT should be nerfed?

More like the awful stuff that needs to be nerfed has been winning mATs.

la_cabra_de_vida · Jul 12, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Good first step...

Guillaume De Sonoma · Jul 12, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

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Originally Posted by deya

So, according to you, anything that wins mAT should be nerfed?

No, but I do feel like 5 healer defensive spike builds should be nerfed.

Besides, Enfeebling Blood, Anthems affecting NPCs, and mantra were all broken or overpowered.

Keithark · Jul 12, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

dervs still = imba if they just nerf them 1/2 as much as the paragon has been nerfed it would be ok but this wasn't even close