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HackingHippie712 · Jul 23, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

[Dev Update] Tournament Reward Tweaks - 23 July 2008

To reduce the number of guilds who join tournaments and don’t play, we have changed Tournament Reward Point distribution for Daily Automated Tournaments. We introduced Reward Points for playing through the whole tournament to encourage more guilds to play through the entire tournament, but many guilds have abused the system by joining tournaments and not playing at all. Instead of banning anyone involved, we have added a restriction on gaining reward points from Daily Automated Tournaments: A guild must be at least rank 1000 to receive Reward Points. This does not stop a guild from joining a tournament. We will be evaluating this update and make changes if necessary.

personally, i think this is complete bullshit...my guild didnt afk the tourneys but we arent top 1k either due to letting less experienced people play and get more into the game, i do agree that they need to do something about the afk guilds, but i dont think this is how it should be done

it could be as easy as adding a /report feature for afk guilds, but there would need to be a way to stop this from being abused, maybe if your guild gets /reported for afk in 3 rounds then you get kicked form tourney and given no rp's

or something as simple as the hero battle tourney give X points per win

gg a-net...just when you couldnt possibly screw things up more, you not only screwed the pooch, you flat out killed the bastard

Silvertalen · Jul 23, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I also think this is complete bullshit. I was looking forward to playing in these and saving for FoW on my PvP Mesmer. D: But no, because our guilds rating is currently 970 something due to losses early before we knew what we were doing, we now will not recieve TRP.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jul 23, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

They said they will be reviewing it, it is a temporary change. No need to yell at A-Net, they are just trying to stop it.

kalzu · Jul 23, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Thank you Anet.

I D E L E T E D I · Jul 23, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

They said they will be reviewing it, it is a temporary change. No need to yell at A-Net, they are just trying to stop it.

If we know ANet at all, they will change it to this and do nothing afterwards. This is how its going to be and thats that. And tbh yeah it does suck balls tbh.

Now that only People on the ladder can gain TRP lower ranked guilds will either not participate at all or the few that will join, will just get rolled by people much higher than them.

The least the could do is reset the ladder or kick all the inactive guilds of the ladder, this 3 months not playing a game is utter BS.

GG ANet

Divinus Stella · Jul 23, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

To be honest if you are lower than rank 1000 and play AT's then theres something wrong.

FoxBat · Jul 23, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

To be honest if you are lower than rank 1000 and play AT's then theres something wrong.

Unless you're BEST.

Except they aren't playing anyway.

Moloch Vein · Jul 24, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

This is a really bad change. Killing recruitment ftw?

Shendaar · Jul 24, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

To be honest if you are lower than rank 1000 and play AT's then theres something wrong.

Seriously. Its not like it's that hard or anything. You shouldn't get rewarded for being terrible.

Zabe · Jul 24, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

So American AT's finally died?

HackingHippie712 · Jul 24, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Shendaar

Seriously. Its not like it's that hard or anything. You shouldn't get rewarded for being terrible.

if you're lower than 1k but still able to get top 8 in AT's then how exactly are you "terrible"

FoxBat · Jul 24, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Its not clear whether they mean sub-1k are denied all RPs, or just the RPs for completing a tourney. (15)

moriz · Jul 24, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by HackingHippie712

if you're lower than 1k but still able to get top 8 in AT's then how exactly are you "terrible"

last week, an afk guild went 4-1 in an AT and finished 5th (and yes, they really did afk through it all. my guild gave them their only loss). being able to place in the top 8 is hardly an indication of skill.

The Blade From Hell · Jul 24, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

The fact of the matter is that 1002 rating is top 1k and if you cant make that then i doubt this rp thing matters to you anyways. RP was never designed to be used for ppl to buy fow on pve chars, it was a mistake by anet. RP was suppossed to reflect pvpers who were good, and being able to get rp armor was a reflection of skill in ATs. The system got abused, it got fixed. Dont whine, this fix is good and was needed.

moriz · Jul 24, 2008, 02:04 AM // 02:04

what i want to know is, is what happens when your rating drops below 1000 during the AT. will you still receive reward points, if you finish the AT below 1000?

Lycan Nibbler · Jul 24, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

This is indeed BS. To allow a guild rank 999 RPs but to disallow a guild 1,001 any (not for competing OR wins) is completely wrong.
What we will see is the "higher" guilds still entering their smurfs to forfeit the 1st round to bump up their own rewards (and yes, I know that this occurs).
The correct fix would be to remove ALL RPs from the AT's. After all, the reward is getting the QP's to qualify for the mAT.
I personally believe a division system where the top 1k guilds play in div "A" for the QP's and RP rewards and a div "B" where the over 1k guilds play for no QP's and reduced RP's (say 5 to complete and say 3 or 2 RP's for a win).
I think this would have still given lower/inexperienced/training guilds a place to play competitievely against similar opposition, still given encouragement for guilds to play and improve and would stop most of the complaints of the top guilds "wasting their time" rolling the lower guilds (which is no fun for either).

LifesRestorer · Jul 24, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

a divisional ladder sounds quite interesting, Miss Drops Az...

still i disagree on your first point... why am i the only one who thinks that this change is a good idea? now people will actually get to compete in AT's instead of just fighting AFK guilds.

The Blade From Hell · Jul 24, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Drops idea is pretty decent tbh but with the current state of gw the highest divisions wud be like 6 guilds in the whole thing and it wouldnt be fun/just wouldnt work. However divisions with reduced rp would be nice, just doubt it would happen.

moriz · Jul 24, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

the gvg population is not large enough to support a division system.

as for increasing competition.... i'm not sure. the same teams that play in ATs before will still play now, except without AFK guilds giving out free wins. it MIGHT make ATs more competitive, since every guild will have to work for their wins, and no guild will have their rankings artificially boosted because they faced 4 afk guilds or something. however, i can guarantee you there will be less teams playing.

Lycan Nibbler · Jul 24, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

still i disagree on your first point... why am i the only one who thinks that this change is a good idea? now people will actually get to compete in AT's instead of just fighting AFK guilds.

The reason being :- Just last week, there were two AT's that contained 4 and 5 (respectively) 2 of the guilds resigned after the first match in the AT leaving 3 guilds to compete (thus meaning 1 of 3 had to wait 30 minutes to compete). The 4 that entered wouldnt have had an AT at all.
You may say that will change now the afk guilds wont be there, however the first AT I competed in contained 5 guilds, 1 of them being an "afk" guild (this was before it became popular). Yes, the weekend AT's may be competitive, but the weekday/night ones will now turn into RP farming for high ranked guilds.
Also if you are a rank 900 guild, would you dare to play an AT knowing you will likely lose most if not all?