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ajc2123 · Aug 15, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26

DISREGARD THIS POST FOR TOPIC DISCUSSION AND GO DOWN TO POST NUMBER 16 FOR THREAD DISCUSSION

Couldn't find a thread cuz search was disabled O_o something about too high...something or others. ANYWAYS.

Do you think the removal of the guild thief/ locks are going to play a large part in the change of gvg? Or will it just be a minor thing? I never payed attention in Ob mode to see if the thief was targeted to prevent entry but I imagine they were. It seems as though the whole system of gvg is getting revamped, which is a good thing IMO because the same thing over and over again gets boring and people start to exploit things. I'm not saying that was the case this time but, I think the new system of no gates is going to be fun and interesting.

What about you?

Brian the Gladiator · Aug 15, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31

I think the changes to GvG completely ruined the experience. What was once good about the game is now gone. GvG is now HA at the flag stand with hero-way as the new meta... what is good about this???

IMO... nothing. Add me to the list of GvGers that now quit the game.

ajc2123 · Aug 15, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Most of the teams I watch that use hero's now loose though O_o. I prefer the removal of VoD because, frankly, it was boring to watch

. I have no idea how the gate update is gonna be though.

RotteN · Aug 15, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

this update obviously made ganking easier, so basically you have 2 options now :

8v8 at stand, kill them there and push them into base

zergrush base, kill lotsa stuff so they have to fall back. Repeat this to get maximum damage on the guild lord.

DutchSmurf · Aug 15, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

I prefer the removal of VoD because, frankly, it was boring to watch

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VoD wasn't boring to watch, the 18 minutes before it were. Now the whole 28 minutes are boring to watch.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 15, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

I think the changes to GvG completely ruined the experience. What was once good about the game is now gone. GvG is now HA at the flag stand with hero-way as the new meta... what is good about this???

IMO... nothing. Add me to the list of GvGers that now quit the game.

Add me to the list that quit to play WoW.

Anyway the entire VoD update made me want to quit. Not even a point in trying with retarded stuff like this now.

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf

VoD wasn't boring to watch, the 18 minutes before it were. Now the whole 28 minutes are boring to watch.

Depends who was fighting during the 18 minutes. But yes 28 min matches = stupid.... Bring back VoD so this doesn't happen...

Deleet · Aug 15, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Splitting should be back in now.

Tearz1993 · Aug 15, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf

VoD wasn't boring to watch, the 18 minutes before it were. Now the whole 28 minutes are boring to watch.

QFT

Two extremes don't cancel each other out btw.

Orange Milk · Aug 15, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

So along time ago there was Guild Wars.

Then along came Build Wars.

And now we can usher in the era of Gank Wars.

tnel28 · Aug 15, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

(btw, there is already a similiar thread but it is not all about the GVG update. here it is if anyone wants to take a look)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=august+14

and now im just gonna copy and paste what i said in that thread because it is exactly what i think will happen because of this update.

Ya imho this update is complete crap. There are two strategies that will play out and I have the build to do both. First strategy is to Zerg Rush/8 man start of match gank (can it even be called gank anymore?). The second is to DP the opposing team out. Since DPing a whole team out is nearly impossible, a full team gank would be best. No strategy, whoever has the most speed buffs and fastest attacks win. What build could do this you ask? Simple, an 8 assassin team, with 2 speed buffs a piece, a self heal, a shadow step, and an awesome attack chain. GG. Ya I', never GVGing again. Anyone with a good free MMO could you please PM me. Also I said good so runescape HD doesnt count!

Bowstring Badass · Aug 15, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Lethal learn2play. Love you to.

(Know your going to pm bout something stupid about being a caveman).

And we already knew about that thread. He was referring to the lord no longer walking out of the base.

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GvG is on hold until Anet gets their heads out of their asses.

I just copied that from my guild status.

Divinus Stella · Aug 15, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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GvG is on hold until Anet gets their heads out of their asses.

Il be playing DotA until Anet actually sort the mess out, i think Izzy is having a laugh tbh.

Ec]-[oMaN · Aug 15, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

Il be playing DotA until Anet actually sort the mess out, i think Izzy is having a laugh tbh.

You bet he is, running around the map freely now is pure fun!!!!

Bowstring Badass · Aug 15, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

Il be playing DotA until Anet actually sort the mess out, i think Izzy is having a laugh tbh.

Prepare to play DotA for about a year.

some guy · Aug 15, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

I think the changes to GvG completely ruined the experience. What was once good about the game is now gone. GvG is now HA at the flag stand with hero-way as the new meta... what is good about this???

IMO... nothing. Add me to the list of GvGers that now quit the game.

add me also

12 char

Going back to my xbawx 360 and need to get rdy for gears 2

It's like a cup of pudding after putting your dick in it. It's still good pudding but no matter how you say it, no 1 will eat it cus you put your dick in it. same with GW, it's like beyond fixing and no 1 will ever buy a assnet game cus they put their dick in the pudding known as GW.

(thx yahtzee!!!!)

ajc2123 · Aug 15, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Holy crap. Didn't expect this much negative feedback about the change O_o.

But honestly, I am getting a little angry from one thing. Firstly all I heard about was VoD was ruining gvg and it was 3+ monk teams were getting annoying, then they removed VoD and everyone freaks out, THEN they get rid of gates and all hell breaks loose. Imo all they did was change how you need to play, and isn't the fun part of playing a constantly updating game adapting to it? They are obviously trying new things, and not just letting it sit there, which is exactly what they could do and still make crap loads of money for GW2.

I'm going to change the topic of discussion a bit if this is the case for this thread.

What do you want gvg to be like? What effect's, items, way you play it, just general EVERYTHING do you want gvg to be like? Maybe 12 v 12 or keep it 8v8 or maybe even have 6v6, add new items like catapults (I know they have em, im just saying what the item would be like) any effects giving to npcs or characters after a certain amount of time. Just basically. How do you want gvg to play out? How should Anet fix gvg. Give specific numbers for skills or effects instead of just saying "ADD CANNONS!" "Put VoD back in but different"or something like that.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 15, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

They basically made zerg rush the only logical tactic.

I was pissed when they took out VoD. Taking the gatelocks away just made it even more retarded. Honestly they should just undo all the changes they did and balance it. It wasn't that broken needed to be fixed not completely taken out.

I suggest anet make GvG give fame for matches won. Thats how retarded no VoD is. They put it in so matches would end quicker, then yet they take it out and put in the 28 tie breaker rule for all matches. They are going in the opposite direction they wanted.

DutchSmurf · Aug 15, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

Firstly all I heard about was VoD was ruining gvg and it was 3+ monk teams were getting annoying, then they removed VoD and everyone freaks out, THEN they get rid of gates and all hell breaks loose.

It wasn't VoD that was the problem. It was the npcs and their behavior that was. If they could have just changed that, everyone would be happy. Instead of that Izzy is randomly trying things that everyone can see won't work.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 15, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by DutchSmurf

It wasn't VoD that was the problem. It was the npcs and their behavior that was. If they could have just changed that, everyone would be happy. Instead of that Izzy is randomly trying things that everyone can see won't work.

Good ol' Izzy screwing things up.

tnel28 · Aug 15, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

Imo all they did was change how you need to play, and isn't the fun part of playing a constantly updating game adapting to it?

Yes they did indeed change the way you play GVG. The reason it is not fun is because there are virtually no strategies that will work except for the 8 man gank/zerg rush (basically the same thing, zerg rush is just a substrategy of 8 man gank.)

To the new topic

I suggest they make GVG's how they were before the august 7th/8th update. VoD was great and even though the popular thing to do was turtle and wait for 18 minutes, there were a ton of different strategies than that. If izzy didnt want that to happen he could have nerfed the hell outta AoE's and similiar skills that were used in the turtle build. 8v8 is a great number of people to have. making it smaller would be too close to TA. Alhtough a 12 man GVG would be pretty intense, I would prefer if they made AB like that with 12 people in the party window BUT thats a whole nother topic right there. Another addition I would like is more maps as I am getting bored of these maps. Theres really only 6-7 maps that are used, the rest are nearly all for looks and PVE guilds. Some more maps with different layouts instead of just reskins is what Im asking for. Basically though the old time GVGs of 2 weeks ago were awesome and called for the above average player to be good at GVG. Now any PVE scrub can go in and make some Balth faction.