Curse

Killed u man · Aug 11, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

With [Lyssa's Aura] buff, you can now maintain a constant +3 Pips of regen on yourself.

This translates to about 20 energy every 20 seconds, with NO investment cost. This extra energy easily makes up for the 2 energy loss you get per spell under [Divine Boon].

I think the build could most definatly work, as I tried in with succes in RA already. Everything works in RA, thats not a secret, but I was succesfully keeping myself, and my team, alive against synced teams, cookie-cutters and what-not-else one can find in RA. Even enchant remove heavy builds usually aren't a problem, as Lyssa's Aura would be rechared all time when it could stripped. You easily got enough energy to cover it up constantly with a RoF or Guardian.

Anyways here is the build:

[build=New Boon Prot Divine=11+1+1 Prot=10+1 Inspi=10][Reversal of Fortune][Guardian][Dismiss Condition][Free Skill][Ether Feast][Lyssa's Aura][Waste Not, Want Not][Divine Boon][/build]

[Ether feast] can be swapped out for [Power Drain], but you will have to time it, so you can use both Waste Not and Pdrain with 10 second intervals.

Any ideas on some other usefull skills in this build?

[Holy Veil]
[Reverse Hex]
[Remove Hex]

Come to Mind, or even

[Contemplation of Purity]

Trinity Fire Angel · Aug 11, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46

I like the idea of the build. I might give it a go tonight after work. Altho a [dshot] to [Ether Feast] would totally mess up the build.

In your empty slot Why not [Spirit Bond] ifyou have so much energy? or [gift of health]. what would your divine setting be? any ideas on stats?

can;t wait to get home to try it tho as i never got to play the old Boon Prot

edit: why not [epidemic]? it seems like a much better skill to keep your [lyssas aura] up. ie. Eather feast and epidemic

Killed u man · Aug 11, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by Trinity Fire Angel

I like the idea of the build. I might give it a go tonight after work. Altho a dshot to Ether Feast would totally mess up the build. Why not [Spirit Bond] ifyou have so much energy? or [gift of health]. what would your divine setting be? any ideas on stats?

can;t wait to get home to try it tho as i never got to play the old Boon Prot

edit: why not [epidemic]? it seems like a much better skill to keep your [lyssas aura] up

Well, you do NOT have alot of energy. You have enough energy for some healthy amount of spam to keep red bars up... (Im pretty much casting non-stop, I do get every waste not + pdrain energy return)

urania · Aug 11, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

relying for ur energy on an ench is too risky in times when ench removal is insanely overpowered. moreover, its cond and hex removal is very bad, its less vulnerable to some dangerous hexes like shame and bf though.
i favour the idea of carrying cop a lot, but being forced to cop ur elite makes it vulnerable to a d shot and with that ur energy management is fooked :P

distilledwill · Aug 11, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

What do you mean there is no investment cost? You do have to invest at least 10 in inspiration to get the +3 energy regen, right?

Div · Aug 11, 2008, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

What do you mean there is no investment cost? You do have to invest at least 10 in inspiration to get the +3 energy regen, right?

He means that it doesn't take anything to have that "free" regen (after the initial cast). The biggest problem with it is that if you're not getting targeted, ether feast is a pretty big waste of 5e every 9s (which means you only net 4 energy over that period from lyssa's). Ench removal is also going to be really nasty.

It could be an interesting build for dual backline TA builds, and obviously for RA.

distilledwill · Aug 11, 2008, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

He means that it doesn't take anything to have that "free" regen (after the initial cast). The biggest problem with it is that if you're not getting targeted, ether feast is a pretty big waste of 5e every 9s (which means you only net 4 energy over that period from lyssa's). Ench removal is also going to be really nasty.

It could be an interesting build for dual backline TA builds, and obviously for RA.

Ahha, ok my mistake.

Killed u man · Aug 11, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07

What holy said.

I actually am expecting alot of the buffed elites to get nerfed pretty soon. GvG is being overrun by hexways. Monks are getting owned by redicilously unconditional, high damage, enchant removal. (Pain of Dis anyone?)

The game is in a higher state of imbalancedness than ever before. Balanced overpowered shit with overpowered shit. It doesn't work that way Izzy...

Other than that:

The power of Boon Prot, is that you only need 12+ in Divine, and then >9 in prot (so it's somewhat effective) for it to work. This allows you to invest alot into inspiration. (Whereas a GvG Monk will usually have Prot, heal AND divine, the boon prot only needs Prot and Divine.

On top of that: There isn't that much enchant removal in GvG. (Inspired, Shatter and Rend) Most teams usually rely on a Mesmer have Inspired and Shatter, or a midline with just rend. (In other words, running 2 of these will guarantee one always being able to spam freely)

On top of that, after toying around a bit (Working with Waste Not and Pdrain) I find that U really have ALOT of extra energy with Lyssa's Aura. Guardian/rof is a good cover against mesmers.

Morgoth the dark · Aug 11, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

Well, daze RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs you up pretty badly.
Got dazed a couple of times, very hard to get rid of that shit only with dismiss.

Div · Aug 11, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

Well, daze RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs you up pretty badly.
Got dazed a couple of times, very hard to get rid of that shit only with dismiss.

Daze will screw over WoH and RC monks even more than this.

Seraphim of Chaos · Aug 11, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

Well, daze RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs you up pretty badly.
Got dazed a couple of times, very hard to get rid of that shit only with dismiss.

Use CoP.

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makosi · Aug 11, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54

This could work well depending on who you are facing. If there's a Corrupt Enchantment/Rip Enchantment spammer then you're screwed. Mesmers with Shatter and Drain Enchantment are annoying enough but some are even abusing Rend or Gaze of Contempt.

The devs might as well make the use of enchantments a breach of the EULA and a bannable offence because the enchantment-hate shows big-time.

Divinus Stella · Aug 11, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

I supose its ok in 4v4 arenas but it really lacks the big prots needed for the huge spikes in 8v8 play.

If your planning to use 2 of those as your backline you will have issues keeping anyone alive against decent pressure.

Also im not sure where you got the idea that GvG is becoming overrun by hex's, all high level games have been balanced that ive seen on observer and most of the scubs are focusing on 3 thumpers 4 smiters currently so i dont even think hex build would survive in the lower ranks.

Cass · Aug 11, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Daze will screw over WoH and RC monks even more than this.

Those can go Mo/W with Disciplined Stance & Mend Touch. Without a block stance and with only Dismiss, you've got it pretty bad vs Dazed.

Morgoth the dark · Aug 11, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Daze will screw over WoH and RC monks even more than this.

while they have an optional stance (sin or warr), they can mend touch themselves, without a stance, you run for shelter and are pretty much screwed.
nit saying that builds sucks, just this is major flaw in it.

About using CoP... i had hex removal instead, backfire is bad.

IMMORTAlMITCH · Aug 11, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

You can't really cover Lyssa's Aura though, as soon as you cast a spell on someone else it becomes the top enchantment.

GourangaPizza · Aug 11, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by makosi

This could work well depending on who you are facing. If there's a Corrupt Enchantment/Rip Enchantment spammer then you're screwed. Mesmers with Shatter and Drain Enchantment are annoying enough but some are even abusing Rend or Gaze of Contempt.

The devs might as well make the use of enchantments a breach of the EULA and a bannable offence because the enchantment-hate shows big-time.

[Air of Disenchantment] wants to say hi for minimal investment of illusion for major messing up of your prots.

Tearz1993 · Aug 11, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by GourangaPizza

[Air of Disenchantment] wants to say hi for minimal investment of illusion for major messing up of your prots.

Because that elite is used so much, right?

Don't really think that this bar would be the best. WoH / ZB bars are more efficient and adapt easier.

DarkNecrid · Aug 11, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Tearz1993

Because that elite is used so much, right?

Don't really think that this bar would be the best. WoH / ZB bars are more efficient and adapt easier.

Uhm...it is now...it did get buffed into being damn good it only makes Enchantments expire 300% faster ;o

payne · Aug 11, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

With [Lyssa's Aura] buff, you can now maintain a constant +3 Pips of regen on yourself.

This translates to about 20 energy every 20 seconds, with NO investment cost.

other then it being an elite