Curse

furanshisuko · Oct 10, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Ranger

* Burning Arrow: increased Burning duration to 1..7 seconds.

FKN NICE !

Master Ketsu · Oct 11, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by furanshisuko

Ranger

* Burning Arrow: increased Burning duration to 1..7 seconds.

FKN NICE !

Fun to some extent, but also unnecessary. Burning arrow was fine.

This in addition to the lack of touching things that actually do need a fix equate this update to FAIL.

Reverend Dr · Oct 11, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Burning arrow was fine. As a matter of fact most of the higher ranked guilds were already running this in preference to incendiary, crip, or magebane. I honestly cannot fathom a buff to an elite that already sees so much use.

kvndoom · Oct 11, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Burning arrow was fine. As a matter of fact most of the higher ranked guilds were already running this in preference to incendiary, crip, or magebane. I honestly cannot fathom a buff to an elite that already sees so much use.

They didn't so much give people a choice, but instead made up their minds for them.

Ben-A-BoO · Oct 11, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

lousy update. but nerfed ... bb sins.

Nothing really happened to the BB Sins. You only need 4 hammer to get a three second KD which is enough to get your chain off and the attribute split allows you to even run 12 Hammer and still get that four second KD to ensure you kill while the target is still eating dust.

PvXwiki is already adjusted accordingly.

FGJ did hurt warriors and Paragons much much more then any BB Sin, just takes a bit longer to charge up now but if that build is rolling it rolls. Don't miss it on my bar.

Wonder if they even test that stuff in advance? Sure doesn't look like it.

BB sins weren't that big of a problem anyway (weapon swap bars are great fun!). They are not so easy to pull off against any team with a decent monk.

This skill balance did ... erhm nothing beside odd uncalled changes to balance ranger elites that were commonly used.

The buff to Burning Arrow made it slightly stronger in splits and that's all. On a spike your burning gets removed with the Deep Wound before it lasts it's full duration anyway.

Incendiary arrows still is supreme at poison spreading.

And Melandru's is a bonus to anyone how ran it before in splits, but was used anyway due to it's awesomness (aka fun factor!).

RiKio · Oct 11, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Blood Spike

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Zabe · Oct 11, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

The bloodspike is hard opponent only in the hands of players that have brains. (I wont go to details here because I still want to kick their ass, faced only 1 guild sofar who knows how to easywin with that build). But still, it needs to be fixed, especially the resurrection shrine blockage shit.

Pretty decent changes, Immolate buff is somewhat nice, tho triggers SB now ;< FGJ as said mostly just hurt warriors than sins, and BB is still abusable. Hidden Caltrops got nerfed, and it needed to.

People wondering why it was so small:

Upcoming Changes

This month's content update is lighter than usual as we are currently working on a larger update due next month. Next month's update will focus primarily on balance and pacing issues associated with many PvE titles.

Tho, dunno what it will bring with it. The updates lately has been pretty good and such, so will we get the GvG world nuked out of the planet next month or what, we never know. Tho, dunno about the fact that it speaks something from PvE titles, those are rather unbalanced and need fixing, RIGHT?

kvndoom · Oct 11, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

It's a message that can be interpreted 2 different ways, which is what leaves me skeptical.

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Next month's update will focus primarily on balance and pacing issues associated with many PvE titles.

Is the balance referring to the PVE titles (PVE balance, har)?

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Next month's update will focus primarily on balance and pacing issues associated with many PvE titles.

Balancing the game, and also reducing PVE title grind?

A strategically placed comma in that sentence could change everything.

DarkNecrid · Oct 11, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

I was actually getting ready to ask Linsey the same thing after seeing that just now. :x

-Pluto- · Oct 12, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Incendiary Arrows and Caltrops nerfs were obvious. Still need to see...

Expert's Dex -> prep with 2s activation
smite condi and hex -> reduce aoe to "nearby" instead of "in the--ARE YOU RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING SERIOUS--area!?" (skills actually read like that, btw)
Necro shit-> something. I don't know the build well enough to have any ideas.
Visions of regret -> at least 3s cast. Maybe lower duration.
Wastrels -> damage down, maybe.
Oh, and Burning Arrow -> revert pointless buff.

Hanging Man · Oct 12, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

i hate the new FGJ
8 secons with a 45sec recharge
in pve might still be worth it havent tried it
but in pvp, thats just lame

Byron · Oct 13, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Pew pew keen arrow is far too strong. They can basically solo things.

Steboy93 · Oct 13, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Hanging Man

i hate the new FGJ
8 secons with a 45sec recharge
in pve might still be worth it havent tried it
but in pvp, thats just lame

Wasn't nerfed in pve.

Meteor way gogo imo.

DarkNecrid · Oct 13, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by kvndoom

It's a message that can be interpreted 2 different ways, which is what leaves me skeptical.

Is the balance referring to the PVE titles (PVE balance, har)?

Balancing the game, and also reducing PVE title grind?

A strategically placed comma in that sentence could change everything.

Not to disappoint you, but got your answer:
"There will be the same kind of skill balance we do every month after the AT nothing really beyond that for skill balance. This build is mostly for rebalancing how people achieve titles. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 17:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC) "

You heard it here first folks, next month we're getting a buff to Feedback and Blood Bond to finish balancing the game I guess.

AnonTerror · Oct 13, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by -Pluto-

Oh, and Burning Arrow -> revert pointless buff.

Why? People might actually consider running it now. It only added a second anyway.

DarkNecrid · Oct 14, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by AnonTerror

Why? People might actually consider running it now. It only added a second anyway.

Because the only reason it might not have ever been taking was because of a more op skill replacing it. You nerf that skill not nerf it and then buff it. Yeah its just a second, but it's still stupid to buff and already good skill that saw quite a lot of play anyways...

Reverend Dr · Oct 14, 2008, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by AnonTerror

Why? People might actually consider running it now. It only added a second anyway.

Running it now?

Before the update many top guilds were highly favoring it over incendiary already. It was already a top ranger elite and highly used; it doesn't need a buff.