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Necrosh · Dec 22, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

GvG, but not HA.

I consider GvG is at higher lvl(coordination,concentration and training)
but HA has also a nice structure of Pvp

I say GvG/HA and maybe TA

Apok Omen · Dec 22, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

None of the above.

[DE] · Dec 22, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Anything on battle isle I suppose - top level PvP is strictly GvG in my book though

Lyynyyrd · Dec 22, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

TA and GVG of 2005/early 2006.

DarkGanni · Dec 22, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

GvG/HA

When ran with non gimmick builds and mature players.

Daft Shifty · Dec 22, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

GvG. and now even GvG is going down the drain. I liked it better when e-denial was meta.

Alleji · Dec 22, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

RA, TA, HA and GvG to me are obviously "real PvP" because you're fighting other players. What is "serious PvP" depends exclusively on how seriously you take it, not on the format itself (so most of the time RA would be excluded).

AB/FA/JQ are PvP or PvE, depending on how you play it. If you're fighting other people, then it's PvP. If you're running around in circles and nuking shrines, that's not PvP.

shoogi · Dec 22, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Don't forget festival games
Avalanche vs. Yellow Snow business is the only thing keeping Snowball AT's from being the far best PvP Guild Wars has to offer at the moment

TSS · Dec 23, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

if there are people fighting other people and little to no AI involved, its PvP

Whenitrainsitpours · Dec 24, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

All instances with players on both sides.

It's Player versus Player. Not Amazing Player versus Amazing Player.

Bobby2 · Dec 24, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Pub fighting.

It isn't a game.

ensoriki · Dec 24, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

There all real pvp.
Except RA.
Even HB, as long as theres some tactical value, imma call it real pvp.
RA...sure you can have tactics...well im sure you guys know what I mean.

Hundbert · Dec 24, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I was gonna vote for snowball at's but didn't find it in the list so i ended up voting for "What is PvP?"

Omgopolis · Dec 25, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

RA and only RA, for obvious reasons.

Alleji · Dec 25, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoogi

Don't forget festival games
Avalanche vs. Yellow Snow business is the only thing keeping Snowball AT's from being the far best PvP Guild Wars has to offer at the moment

Costume brawl was the best PvP GW had. If only rangers weren't so imba against bad players.

scruffy · Dec 25, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Any arena that gives you random teammates or makes you fight mutliple teams at once isn't real pvp. In a team game the p in pvp stands for one organized team that acts as a unit, a single p. In arenas with random teammates it's more like ppppvpppp because what your team will be/do is unpredictable. In arenas where you fight mutliple teams at once it's more like pvpvp, this is bad because as soon as one team can no longer win they try to take down one of the remaining teams with them and ruin the competition for each remaining party(this is why teams wait till the last 2 minutes to do anything in the hall of heros: to reduce the amount of time the loser team has to gank them effectively)

That leaves us with GvG and TA as the only 'real' pvp in Guild Wars, you could also include competative pve missions but I'm not a fan of that style of pvp because the interaction is not between the players themselves but its through a medium of NPC's to see who can take advantage of them with the most efficiency.

Asplode · Dec 29, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trylo

aspenwood/quarry/AB as avoiding players in order to kill NPCs

Yeah GvG was like this too, back during VoD >_>

Come to think of it, there remains a vestigial element of this approach, but it's yet to find its legs again.

urania · Dec 29, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

What is Pvp?

I'd add a This is PvE! option.

Vehemence · Dec 29, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Player versus player is when players fight each other. So I guess RA,TA,HA,HB and GVG are all PvP.