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lutz · Dec 13, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

I hate all this elitist bullpoo about "AB isnt PvP" "HB isnt PvP" "CMs arent PvP". Some people need to get over themselves.

If one player can run up and kill another player then that battle is player vs player. Nuff said.

Fighting retarded, uncoordinated people is the same, if not easier, than fighting AI.
This means the following formats do not apply as PvP: Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, Hero Battes, Heroes' Ascent.

This leaves: Guild vs. Guild (sometimes), and maybe Team Arenas.

Ensign · Dec 13, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Something this game had in 2006.

garethporlest18 · Dec 13, 2008, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutz

Fighting retarded, uncoordinated people is the same, if not easier, than fighting AI.
This means the following formats do not apply as PvP: Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, Hero Battes, Heroes' Ascent.

This leaves: Guild vs. Guild (sometimes), and maybe Team Arenas.

Well if you say it like that, then nothing in this game is PvP. I see GvG as the only respectable PvP. TA and HA 1 under GvG. RA 1 under that. Then HB, AB, FA and JQ as the last notch on the list. But they all go on the PvP list, even though AB, FA and JQ are like hybrid PvE/PvP areas.

ac1inferno · Dec 13, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Any player versus player format that has a universally accepted "balanced" build.

X Cytherea X · Dec 13, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

^wow thats dumb

Abedeus · Dec 13, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

GvG.

HA...sometimes. If they nerf some stuff.

MAAAAYBE TA, but there are stupider gimmicks there than in HA.

distilledwill · Dec 13, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutz

Fighting retarded, uncoordinated people is the same, if not easier, than fighting AI.

If you're fighting people then you're fighting players, I assume you're a player. That fight is Player vs Player.

Burton2000 · Dec 13, 2008, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Why is there no GvG only option?

Smarty · Dec 13, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

If there are human players on the other side then it's (real) PvP, by definition. Stealing a word from GarethPorlest here, you really should have been asking what people consider to be respectable PvP, ie the formats of PvP in which you stand a chance of fighting against coordinated intelligent teams of players, rather than just players per se. Try making the poll again instead of this biased "oh, AB isn't real PvP" shit that you have now, if you want genuine answers rather than confirmation from all the other elitists that GvG is the only real PvP out there and everything else is for PvE scrubs.

Trylo · Dec 13, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

thanks for making the poll! i didnt get to make the poll, but i didnt make it clear enough that gvg only should be an option. just go with what there is i guess.

i would definitely put my opinion of "real" pvp as respectable pvp, but respectable still can mean vastly different things to different people.

anyways ensign has the stinging point that pvp has obviously fallen from its previous form. lets not try to be to down on the subject -_-

turbo234 · Dec 14, 2008, 01:38 PM // 13:38

bad options. no vote for you!

Kumlekar · Dec 15, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

I was forced to vote HA/gvg because there was no "Battle isles other than RA and PVE areas" I hate to break it to you guys, but HB requires just as much skill as gvg, even though its 1v1. True, its a tad unbalanced due to skill updates being designed for other areas, but it requires a completely different style of play.

Ab is arguable, it is fun when you've got 8 people on vent.

Trylo · Dec 15, 2008, 02:59 AM // 02:59

HB requires you to be able to switch weapons. thats about it. when 75% of the players are a/w, you know something is up.

Marxon Aurion · Dec 15, 2008, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumlekar

HB requires just as much skill as gvg

Nice joke. 12chars.

bungusmaximus · Dec 15, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Hehe if you look at quality it still doesn't matter, because not all people that play GvG are actually any good at it, and not all people playing AB necessarily suck. Not all AB battles are easy and not all GvG battles are hard. LOL sometimes players roll an organised team and go AB for lols, then stuff can get rather tricky I can tell you.

Besides, GvG has npc's in it too, just like other formats.

Amu Hinamori · Dec 21, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Anything with players on either sides...

kvndoom · Dec 21, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

RA is serious bidness.

Divinus Stella · Dec 21, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Well technically PvP is anything that pits players against eachother but this is about "real" pvp.

GvG is about as good as it gets as far as PvP goes.
HA was also a fairly competitive form of PvP up until about a year ago but its never really had a concentrated skilled player base, most successful teams relied on 1 player and broken skills, now its fallen into the lower tiers along with RA and TA more casual forms of passing time than a competitive arena.

Alliance battles and hero battles are pretty rough, i'd drop them in the same group as challenge missions in PvE.

credit · Dec 21, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Alliance Battles.

That is all.

Amu Hinamori · Dec 21, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Anything that has to do with 2 or more players fighting eachother.