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Master Ketsu · Nov 25, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

To get 5, all you have to be is good. A good player can ussually drag mediocre teams to 5. Bad teams on the other hand...your screwed.

Sync, or better yet, go TA.

kvndoom · Nov 25, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Hi Zena, I see you...

Truly, I don't consider myself a good player. I understand skills and know how to use them and all, but there seems to be some traffic congestion between my brain and my fingertips, so my dexterity isn't the greatest in the world. My reflexes will never be good enough to allow me to be "good" at this game. Kinda like I cannot ever play piano, and I type with my index fingers only, even though I know where all the keys are (40 wpm with 2 fingers isn't bad though...). It's a handicap. And yeah, I click on skills with the mouse. Sure sign of a PVP scrub.

That said, the builds I have found myself able to play the best at are the ones which are least affected by my handicap. I arrange skills on my bar in a logical fashion that plays towards how my brain processes stuff. So what I'm good at, I'm good at. When I try something new, I can usually tell pretty quickly if I'm gonna be able to play it well or not. I have learned my strengths and weaknesses by trial an error.

More or less, I'm saying that you need to find a build that you're comfortable playing, master it, and it will take you to your 5 wins and beyond. Arrange your skills so that they best suit your playstyle. Do not ever give up, because that is the only guaranteed way to fail.

Kurt · Nov 25, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

When I was RA'ing for glad points I had most succes when playing as monk myself or WS derv ...

Teh Jace · Nov 26, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Dunno but unlocking TA is not worth it. U will encounter endless masses of RA teams. Once u hit higher ranks u will soon realize farming wammos and bad syncing players is simply not entertaining enough.

But yeah... TA scrubs, who would listen to them anyways.

urania · Nov 26, 2008, 09:18 AM // 09:18

dont forget the hexways and dual healer ways.

Kurt · Nov 26, 2008, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by Teh Jace

Dunno but unlocking TA is not worth it. U will encounter endless masses of RA teams. Once u hit higher ranks u will soon realize farming wammos and bad syncing players is simply not entertaining enough.

But yeah... TA scrubs, who would listen to them anyways.

It's needed to unlock HA tho

Teh Jace · Nov 26, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Kurt

It's needed to unlock HA tho

U don't need HA to unlock GvG

Lyynyyrd · Nov 27, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Just got 10 flawless in a row.

Still easy.

SunrayVenus · Dec 19, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by dmnyx

Common mistakes: 1)No rezz/late rezz, 2)Rushing , 3)Non-kiting, 4) not to have knowladge about the skills you have( ex: you use an antimelee skill on caster without a purpose) simply read the skills you equipt carefully

. Even if you be careful about those 4 minor things you will get 5 glad.

I'll be going into RA this weekend again. Thanks for all the advice.
SunRay

Div · Dec 22, 2008, 04:03 AM // 04:03

In terms of general mechanics, learn not to crazily charge in, but also don't stand around while their ranged characters get you down to half health before you go in. Also mitigate damage by kiting.

For skills, the best thing is to look at a "good" bar that people run in RA (and you can find a lot of those on PvX or what people have posted), and then figure out why those skills are there. This goes beyond simply having knowledge of your skills, since you're now trying to understand why people are making that bar with those exact skills. After that, you'll know how to use those skills, and can kinda figure out which skills can be switched out in certain cases.

Dmitri3 · Dec 22, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Getting 5 wins in RA is not hard, you just need to get the hang of PvP. A lot of people here gave some good advice, but you'll have to figure out the small things by yourself.

Also, if you and your guild mates can't get 5 wins in RA, you'll be really disappointed by TA...

snaek · Dec 22, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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PVP savvy guild mates

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the best was 2 straight wins

sowrie, but ur friends arent all that pvp savvy
at least when it comes to 4v4

play meta builds

war/frontline can be a bit trickier than in high-end pvp...they tend to rely on their team
and in most cases u'll only have urself to rely on in ra...and dealin wit lots of melee-hate
i recommend hammer for mass kd and not relyin on frenzy/pr for dmg
sin in-and-out style is quite perfect for this playstyle
as r dervs to a degree

monk is one of the easier classes to play
if u r semi-competent in monking

midline is generally bout havin a good build, and knowin the builds of everyone else
the easiest (and most brainless) is in the form of melee-hate
key skills being blind, empathy, faint, and/or insidious

the harder midline is the interupt ranger
(but imo more effective because of dshot and res sig shutdown)
tho it can be slightly easier to play in some degrees because they have a natural good self-survival
(its jus takes more skill to be effective)

Wish Swiftdeath · Dec 27, 2008, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Yeah with a warrior i get maybe two 5 win streaks every hour. That's mainly because of the amount of hexes going round as well as the rubbish monks.

I solve that problem by running a monk, i find it much easier to get glad points with them instead of the other professions. As long as your team can kill something.

Unfortunately monk's are hard to play, if you want to take the shortcut then do what everyone else is saying and run some hexspam build, won't help you become a better player though.

steel singer · Dec 27, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

I don't agree with you, monking is really not that hard at all.. If you got a good warrior, ranger, necro then the monk doesn't have to be that good to make wins.. (you just won't win vs some g7+ teams, except Glad)

Seraphim of Chaos · Jan 05, 2009, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by steel singer

I don't agree with you, monking is really not that hard at all.. If you got a good warrior, ranger, necro then the monk doesn't have to be that good to make wins.. (you just won't win vs some g7+ teams, except Glad)

Welcome to Random Arenas.

gw_poster · Jan 06, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

getting 5 wins in RA can definitely be done within a couple of hours, luck depending. Like all others have said, a solid build will do heaps of good for your team - no matter what team you are on. Occassionaly, you will 'get lucky' by your build synergizing well with the other random builds that come with new players on your team, but other times you are left to fend for yourself - hence, the necessity for a solid build. Since RA is the testing ground for many experienced players, and the starting ground for many new to PvP it stands to reason that most times you will not get a synergistic, or balanced team. With this said, however, I've had many 5-win+ streaks with no monk because all on the team had solid builds, and presumably the other teams didn't. Make sense? It did to me when I wrote it, but meh..lol

Just stick with it, and in time I'm sure you'll be reining in the glad points. btw: R/A can be fun, you should try it some time

HotPocket · Jan 16, 2009, 03:12 AM // 03:12

I suppose I am lucky in this so far xD...

I usually get a 5+ win streak once an hour

General Builds for RA Win:

1) Monk (if you are a good monk, which I am not)
2) Ranger (interrupts + insane DPS)
3) Warrior (better than sin if played right)

Everything else (besides Paragons and Rits) are fourth on this list. One could argue that a good Rit could be around 3.5 or so... but just run a monk if you want to heal.

Wish Swiftdeath · Jan 23, 2009, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by steel singer

I don't agree with you, monking is really not that hard at all.. If you got a good warrior, ranger, necro then the monk doesn't have to be that good to make wins.. (you just won't win vs some g7+ teams, except Glad)

Yes monking is easy when you play with people that know what they're doing. Most of the time they overextend, stand in AOE, attack through antimelee, monk stomp and in general don't do their job, that's when it's hard to play monk. Especially with the ridiculous meta with broken shit like MoI, VoR, Lingering and turret rangers etc.

Sure just like any other profession, monking is easy with a bunch of g7's

Lusciious · Feb 14, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by SunrayVenus

Why is it difficult to get 5 consecutive wins in random arena (RA)? All I want to do is unlock TA so that I can PVP with my Guild mates. RA is not my idea of fun and I don’t enjoy the abuse.

For close to 2 years I have been a solo PVE H/H player and avoided PUGs like the plague. But a couple of months ago I joined a guild with an active alliance with a goal of advancing my skills and expanding my play into PVP.

I consulted KiSu and used the suggested bootcamp builds. After many hours and several sessions, I finally got 4 straight wins, and then bombed.

So I conducted an experiment this past week. I asked my PVP savvy guild mates to experience the fun (tongue in cheek) of RA. The results were that all three mates were unable to get 5 straight wins after 2 hours of play time; the best was 2 straight wins. One had the foresight to buy GW before the 5 wins requirement was put in place, the second unlocked with 5 wins some time ago without trouble and the third is an accomplished PVE player with many titles and is an awesome monk.

So my questions: Has RA changed in purpose? Is RA used to discourage new PVP players?

So my challenge to you causal PVE/PVP (no ranked) players: Go into to RA and see if you can get 5 straight wins.

RA is meant to be a type of Low End PvP. Yes i do get pissed off at RA sometimes but you cant be that unlucky all the time.

i myself have reached round 19 from RA into TA. No sync teams. my team just had players who had COMMON SENSE. For anything to go well in PvP, you need your team as well. Theres no way a monk ( you ) and 3 weak players ( your team ) to last long in RA. don't mention TA. Cast SH and say byebye to your team. Players with common sense would know to move out of SH's AoE Range.

heres a question for you. are you doing the right thing ? 1 person's build can affect the whole team. if he has a weak build. it'd be like 3v4. theres no way you'd win. idc if you managed to kill a team of 4 all by yourself before. thats just pure luck. even the weakest PvP-er can cause some damage. I used flurry on my assassin without any skills and i caused the monk to use discipline stance after hitting over 150 damage in 3 seconds. then when discipline stance was over, you start your spike and kill their monk.

RA = luck of the draw. if you're lucky , you get a good team. if you're not, you get a bad team.

SweFighter · Feb 14, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

I´m a Pve player from the beginning. But I play Pvp now Becasue I´m done with everything in PVe. And I have all skills So I experiece with builds. And my fav build is a build I made myself. Its a Defy Pain build. Homemade. MAny people say Defy Pain is noob. Idk why lol. I die 1 time in 10 Battles. It usualy ends up with a 1vs1. and then my tema win or loses. OK I haave no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea what I jsut wrote :P But anyways: Try to make a own Defy PAin build. To me its the best in RA. Always use it. (my second Fav is Assa Caster)