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isildorbiafra · Apr 08, 2009, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

I think your build would be better if you brought [galrath slash].

on which build and what skill do you suggest i replace it with? Keep in mind; besides good damage output these build rely on degen as a major source of damage.

WC KD is conditional. What i meant to say is that i would interupt the KD and therefore screwup your chain.

Xyon the Greatest · Apr 08, 2009, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Ya, thats why they made creating PvP Characters...

isildorbiafra · Apr 08, 2009, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Xyon the Greatest

Ya, thats why they made creating PvP Characters...

and how do you intend to get your PVP character to the JQ?

Arkantos · Apr 08, 2009, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

and how do you intend to get your PVP character to the JQ?

Great Temple of Balthazar. Talk to the Kurzick Recruiter or Luxon Diplomat.

Gforce · Apr 08, 2009, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Sorry to QQ here but this thread is made of fail. You obviously have no idea of the game since you didnt even know you could bring pvp characters there.
A ranger does whatever your warrior bars do, but better.

Oh and you would definately lose a 1v1 vs that assassin. You cant interupt the elite skill since the assassin will use it from out of melee range, and it's also a 1/4 cast. WC kd is conditional, but the skills you can use from distance are very limited, so its pretty much a guaranteed knockdown anyway and then you will be knocked on the ground for the rest of the combo.

I think ranger>assassin in JQ aswell, but atleast assassin is still better then warrior.

Xyon the Greatest · Apr 08, 2009, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

and how do you intend to get your PVP character to the JQ?

Temple of Balthy->Kurzick/Luxon Recruiter->I would like to go to Jade Quarry

Good Luck!

Ghost Dog · Apr 08, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Looking at my gank build for JQ, I would never run melee.

isildorbiafra · Apr 08, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Gforce

A ranger does whatever your warrior bars do, but better.

Oh and you would definately lose a 1v1 vs that assassin. You cant interupt the elite skill since the assassin will use it from out of melee range, and it's also a 1/4 cast. WC kd is conditional, but the skills you can use from distance are very limited, so its pretty much a guaranteed knockdown anyway and then you will be knocked on the ground for the rest of the combo.

I think ranger>assassin in JQ aswell, but atleast assassin is still better then warrior.

Even if I cant block WC all I need to do is take a few steps back; snare the assa; plague send whatever condition he's applied and the assa will stand there with his thumb up his ass. Assa are potent damage dealers but lack endurance as do rangers. Even if the assa gets his whole kd chain off and by any slim chance I do die; so will he cause he cant remove conditions. Bottom line I'd rather run warrior any time at the cost of dieing at the hands of an uber gank once in a blue moon.

Regarding the ToB thing; I never knew that option existed. But i dont feel bad about it. I had alot of fun playing my builds. I've always wondered how people could get any enjoyment from running up to shrines; and blowing themselves up for hours on end.

JQ is full of warriors. Be it good or not. Its called freedom of choice; and thats a good thing. This thread is for those who choose to run something else besides the run...boom..run...boom for whatever reason.

Shayne Hawke · Apr 09, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

lack endurance as do rangers.

Every meta Ranger build the works best in JQ has Mending Touch, Troll Unguent, Natural Stride, and D-Shot. Would you like to enlighten me on how that creates a lack of endurance?

moriz · Apr 09, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

because they don't have a way of magically increasing their max health by 200+hp.

FoxBat · Apr 09, 2009, 04:15 AM // 04:15

A [Stunning Strike] build with [Maiming Spear] is OK in theory, but it's much harder to hit things from up on a ledge than with bows (esp. RtW+flatbows) Plus the spears are kiteable by smart players.

Moebius + Crit Defense sins do an OK job of clearing ranger shrines with their shadowsteps and AoE damage. Some 100blades W/A build might fill a similar role.

Just don't laugh too hard at these Defy Pain guys in FA. Really frustrating when you're trying to monk/rit for turtles and one defy war ties them plus three idiot teammates up for the whole match.

Lux Aeterna · Apr 09, 2009, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

Even if I cant block WC all I need to do is take a few steps back; snare the assa; plague send whatever condition he's applied and the assa will stand there with his thumb up his ass. Assa are potent damage dealers but lack endurance as do rangers. Even if the assa gets his whole kd chain off and by any slim chance I do die; so will he cause he cant remove conditions. Bottom line I'd rather run warrior any time at the cost of dieing at the hands of an uber gank once in a blue moon.

No, you don't get it. The only way you could interrupt it is by either getting lucky with casting healing breeze to interrupt wastrel's, or MAYBE spamming savage slash while on the ground.

Chances are it would end up just like every other time: I jump you, you sit there losing 500hp. I leave with dash. Either I jump you again to kill you, or go kill quarry cappers.

Warrior is just a poor choice for JQ.

moriz · Apr 09, 2009, 02:28 PM // 14:28

just as a heads up: warrior interrupts cannot interrupt a standard A/W wastrel's collapse chain. he'll finish the combo before you can fire off your interrupt. the only way to combat a WC sin as a warrior, is to bring healing signet, or anything else that you can spam and cancel with no loss in adrenaline/energy, and spam+cancel it repeatedly to fake out that sin. hopefully he'll jump the gun and use WC when you are activating your skill, and stop the chain that way.

FoxBat · Apr 09, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Or you could just bring a well-timed [shield bash] or [defensive stance]

moriz · Apr 09, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

healing sig is a better generic counter, but those two skills will work also. of course, the OP can just spam+cancel his plague sending. here's hoping he's even capable of doing so without messing up.

Motoko · Apr 09, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37

[W/A;OQcTE5J/nZsAWOL8VcHTxwKAA]

Take out rez sig for lions comfort.

Don't focus on npc farming but rather killing npc farmers.

I'm at school atm so I can go into more detail later if you want me to.

isildorbiafra · Apr 10, 2009, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

No, you don't get it. The only way you could interrupt it is by either getting lucky with casting healing breeze to interrupt wastrel's, or MAYBE spamming savage slash while on the ground.

Chances are it would end up just like every other time: I jump you, you sit there losing 500hp. I leave with dash. Either I jump you again to kill you, or go kill quarry cappers.

Warrior is just a poor choice for JQ.

Even if you get your complete chain of; all i need to do is cripple you. Yours dash wont get your far; and with the 300hp i got left i'll still kill you. Given i'll die as soon as DP runs out but SO WILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not theory. Like i sayed before i've run into WC assas plenty of times before.

Sometimes i'd just slap a [Dolyak Signet] on my build and farm assas for fun.

moriz · Apr 10, 2009, 02:22 AM // 02:22

so you are saying, is that your build is otherwise useless except for eliminating another melee, but you'll have to sacrifice yourself in the process? yeah, that's very brave. useless, but very brave. i commend on your bravery and utter uselessness.

Mr Emu · Apr 10, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by moriz

so you are saying, is that your build is otherwise useless except for eliminating another melee, but you'll have to sacrifice yourself in the process? yeah, that's very brave. useless, but very brave. i commend on your bravery and utter uselessness.

to the op: distortion sez hi!

HotPocket · Apr 10, 2009, 03:27 AM // 03:27

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Originally Posted by isildorbiafra

Even if you get your complete chain of; all i need to do is cripple you. Yours dash wont get your far; and with the 300hp i got left i'll still kill you. Given i'll die as soon as DP runs out but SO WILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not theory. Like i sayed before i've run into WC assas plenty of times before.

Sometimes i'd just slap a [Dolyak Signet] on my build and farm assas for fun.

You have no idea what your talking about