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elektra_lucia · Feb 05, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

I wish people complimented me for uber monking (that'll be the day XD)! Don't flame this statement by the way (it's cool, I know I'm crap

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I lol @ people like manisan anyways. I mean, I rarely ever play in high rank groups now. I just do whatever, for teh lulz. My argument was mainly there's no point to it if you want to win... There isn't. Infact, I like winning. So really, I'm semi insane.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g0VRkCF2a80

Kenny Mack · Feb 06, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

to OP

to be completely honest man, ur talking a load of balls.

yea ur right low ranks (like myself) probably do give a lot of grief, but why? because they arent even given a chance, not even a chance to show a build, its plain up, "u r5 or higher? no? then f*** off"

i dont believe im better than the higher ranks, not in the slightest, i have next to no experience in HA but i would like to start,

u said "If you really ARE good you will be asked to play with others.", but the truth is, no, u wont, u havent got the rank to join a party, which means u cant accumulate points to work on a title, which ends in a never ending cycle, new players to HA simply cannot break through.

i know for a fact im better than your average joe in this game, through experience in elite pve, and gvg but i will probably never get a chance to show myself and learn in HA because of the snobbery involved.

i really believe, some of you just need to get a life and remember that this is in fact only a game

Kenny

Phe Belladona · Feb 06, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Kenny Mack

to OP

to be completely honest man, ur talking a load of balls.

yea ur right low ranks (like myself) probably do give a lot of grief, but why? because they arent even given a chance, not even a chance to show a build, its plain up, "u r5 or higher? no? then f*** off"

i dont believe im better than the higher ranks, not in the slightest, i have next to no experience in HA but i would like to start,

u said "If you really ARE good you will be asked to play with others.", but the truth is, no, u wont, u havent got the rank to join a party, which means u cant accumulate points to work on a title, which ends in a never ending cycle, new players to HA simply cannot break through.

i know for a fact im better than your average joe in this game, through experience in elite pve, and gvg but i will probably never get a chance to show myself and learn in HA because of the snobbery involved.

i really believe, some of you just need to get a life and remember that this is in fact only a game

Kenny

getting my r3 was a struggle, it was for almost everyone i know, you need to make pugs struggle through a few maps get killed and repeat. it wasnt too fun for me but thats just the process ppl go through, dont expect to join r5+ join unranked, it takes time but the same amount everyone had to take (except maybe at GWs conception) i remember hanging out at Tombs you get to know the ppl who are unranked but keep coming back to play anyway, start regularly inviting them. soon you'll be r3 and then quite a lot opens to you - no longer need to wait for the ppl you know you can join pugs. join guilds. all this accelerates the fame gaining process letting you play every night (if thats your wish) so yes you can complain that its not fair on you BUT it wasnt fair on anyone else either - get over it and play.

iamagod1 · Feb 13, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Ive always been more into gvg than Ha, not sure why but after playing on a r300ish team for a while and guesting out to various top teams for gvg i thought i had enough skill and knowledge of the game to play Ha. (Well a LOT more then i had been).

I am one of them low ranked people that thinks they can play just as good as the majority of any high ranked player, why? because i have years of pvp experience and can infuse better than any monk ive ever seen in ha.

Because I gvg in the Top end, but don't Ha very much i get a kind of unique look at Ha today. On the one hand im only r2 so noone in their right mind would ever accept me into their group that doesn't know me (not like i would ever bother trying lol) at least not any team that has a build and vent lol. I can see how low ranked people feel as its literally impossible to get into a decent team that wont kill your patience, and even getting into unranked teams that lose every game takes hours. On the other hand ive gotten a chance to play occasionally with the elite and in my few actual good teams ive gone to and held halls, showing that some unranked people can play well.

I guess im saying high ranked ppl are to full of themselves to realise if a lower ranked person knows a thing or 2 about builds and gameplay, while lower ranked people are generally annoying and bad as well.

TaCktiX · Feb 13, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

High ranked people aren't "full of themselves," per se. They're just very very doubtful of the ability of a low-ranked person. When it takes hours to get a group together, you don't want that supposedly good low-ranked monk blowing chunks and torching the team that just took forever to get ready.

Ka Tet · Feb 13, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by iamagod1

Ive always been more into gvg than Ha, not sure why but after playing on a r300ish team for a while and guesting out to various top teams for gvg i thought i had enough skill and knowledge of the game to play Ha. (Well a LOT more then i had been).

I am one of them low ranked people that thinks they can play just as good as the majority of any high ranked player, why? because i have years of pvp experience and can infuse better than any monk ive ever seen in ha.

There are lots of gvg'ers who ha or are friends with people who ha. If what you're saying is true, why aren't you getting onto teams with people who know you from gvg or that have common friends?

bitchbar player · Feb 14, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

iamagod, lets turn it around, would you take an unranked champ pug into gvg?

Ruricu · Feb 15, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

Simply put, if you don't have much fame, you don't know the maps and/or the general strategies employed by common teams on said maps. I don't care how much GvG experience you have; it won't give you that knowledge.

Tosha · Feb 15, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30

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Originally Posted by Kenny Mack

to OP

to be completely honest man, ur talking a load of balls.

yea ur right low ranks (like myself) probably do give a lot of grief, but why? because they arent even given a chance, not even a chance to show a build, its plain up, "u r5 or higher? no? then f*** off"

i dont believe im better than the higher ranks, not in the slightest, i have next to no experience in HA but i would like to start,

u said "If you really ARE good you will be asked to play with others.", but the truth is, no, u wont, u havent got the rank to join a party, which means u cant accumulate points to work on a title, which ends in a never ending cycle, new players to HA simply cannot break through.

i know for a fact im better than your average joe in this game, through experience in elite pve, and gvg but i will probably never get a chance to show myself and learn in HA because of the snobbery involved.

i really believe, some of you just need to get a life and remember that this is in fact only a game

Kenny

Hmmm... want to give my opinion on this, me being another low-rank noobie. Okay, you have to do a little more trouble to get into a group, but it is not impossible. And if you do your job in that group, people will add you to their friend list and ask you to join later. Also, there are a few guilds that accept low rankies such as me to help them train.

Yes, tis not as easy to get into as PvE is, but (I hope), a lot more rewarding. Just have to be patient

Kyp Jade · Feb 15, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Tosha

Hmmm... want to give my opinion on this, me being another low-rank noobie. Okay, you have to do a little more trouble to get into a group, but it is not impossible. And if you do your job in that group, people will add you to their friend list and ask you to join later. Also, there are a few guilds that accept low rankies such as me to help them train.

Yes, tis not as easy to get into as PvE is, but (I hope), a lot more rewarding. Just have to be patient

once you make enough friends and contacts to where you can make your own groups and you dont need to play garbage builds anymore it gets a hell of a lot more fun

BarPusher · Apr 19, 2009, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Do any of you still play?

Killed u man · Apr 20, 2009, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Vigor is Champ 5, does that make him good at HA?

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Vigor is Champ 5, does that make him good at PvP?

We (Dent) rickrolled dR (when they still played), rawr and other teams (WITH dual warrior balanced, almost identical build, they usually had a ranger where we had a PD) in HA.

GvG and HA are 2 different things... In GvG, positioning towards your backline matters, in HA, not balling up matters.

In GvG, conservative casting is prefered, in HA,finding good channel-"balls" is important.

So don't have the mentality a good GvG'er will be good at HA. Just as an experienced HA'er will fare decently well in GvG, a experienced GvG'er will fare decently well in HA.

Note a difference between decently well and GOOD. Rawr is a GOOD GvG guild, but they are just average in HA. (When they used to do occasional HA in between AT's)

Experience is earned trough playing the format over and over. You can't learn how to bodyblock (something really minor in GvG, but a VERY important skill to master in HA) by GvG'nig, or atleast not in the extend HA'ers do.

Zabe · Apr 20, 2009, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

You can't learn how to bodyblock (something really minor in GvG, but a VERY important skill to master in HA) by GvG'nig, or atleast not in the extend HA'ers do.

You are the biggest tombs retard I have ever faced, pz.

One word: FLAG

BarPusher · Apr 20, 2009, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Dent are bad at the game and comparing them with any top guild is utter offensive.

Illicit Awakening (pollys old HA/GVG guild) was far better at HA than dent.

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GvG and HA are 2 different things... In GvG, positioning towards your backline matters, in HA, not balling up matters.

HA/GVG both require decent positioning (more important in GVG) but it's not shown as so important because HA players are generally extremely bad.

dR Really didn't take HA that seriously. You're comparing apples with oranges. If they used your exact build, they would beat you with it.

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In GvG, conservative casting is prefered, in HA,finding good channel-"balls" is important.

...Rubbish; furthermore, only the monks are taking channeling. I'm guessing you've never actually monked.

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So don't have the mentality a good GvG'er will be good at HA. Just as an experienced HA'er will fare decently well in GvG, a experienced GvG'er will fare decently well in HA.

Too bad the people you quoted got rank12 years ago and some of those primarily started off as HA players, lol.

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Note a difference between decently well and GOOD. Rawr is a GOOD GvG guild, but they are just average in HA. (When they used to do occasional HA in between AT's)

Decently well is good. There's a difference between great, but Rawr will never be that. Not like War Machine or EvIL was. Talented players are shown early on, they improve much faster than the rest generally.

About your body block comment, that's a bunch of rubbish. You should GVG sometime.

Killed u man · Apr 20, 2009, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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