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Old May 06, 2009, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #41
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thanks for the info and input... I am looking into ways to improve the quality of the video... so any extra info in that area is great help

As for the 2nd person.... unless someone with great GW - GvG knowledge is living in the NW Corner of CT... not likely to happen -_- But it is welcomed! :-)
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Old May 07, 2009, 11:51 PM // 23:51   #42
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really great coverage there! first time i watched one of your videos but i'll def be returning real soon.
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Old May 08, 2009, 04:37 AM // 04:37   #43
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Great coverage again, enjoyed watching it and will be looking forward to the next one.

Don't hate me for this but the "g" in aegis is not a silent g, its a hard g, so aegis would sound very similar to you saying "ages" or "age is."
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Old May 08, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56   #44
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dont hurt me because of my Maine accent >.<

but you are right, i have to work on my pronoucers :-p
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Old May 08, 2009, 09:22 PM // 21:22   #45
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Definitely needs Asp doing commentary when he is on a sugar rush similar to his commentary on the Sup vs Me match during the guru tourney. Listening to him talk a mile a minute makes Guild Wars worth watching again.
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Old May 11, 2009, 10:25 PM // 22:25   #46
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Great vis and super great commentary. You make the match come alive...you are hired!!

Going to have to bookmark this..the KMD spike were just awesome.

Thanks on a great job Sabre Wolf.
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Old May 12, 2009, 07:00 AM // 07:00   #47
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As with last time, the slowmotion action is very well done as well as the video.

Things you could mention would be more tactical things, such as heliana, pomme and spank dying after time in the base and the fact that kmd's spike at 1:59 was timed to actually base res the monk rather than it being coincidential.

I too laughed at the DIE keller kinder and a couple others.
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Old May 12, 2009, 02:35 PM // 14:35   #48
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Thanx, nice video
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Old May 12, 2009, 07:06 PM // 19:06   #49
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You don't say anything about the actual game. All you do is say what's on the screen and explicitly tell us every move the people make. Thanks, but that's useless - we can see what happens.

You need to mention the state of the game - who's in the better position, who made good decisions, why they're splitting (it's called splitting, not a gank. It's only a gank if they're running all their offense at the bodyguard and lord). You need to say:

"Well, Liquid is falling back to defend against the split - KMD's stand team now only has one monk at stand. We're probably going to see some collapse action and power play that one monk, it's what Cry wants... oh, and look - they have stand control. Are they going to -- yes they are, but Cry's stand team is dropping from spikes and Cry's split is wiping to footmen - yeah, this is over. Cry just lost the game. Cry executed their split far too late with far too much DP so they can't hold up at all. We're just going to see KMD push in and end the game."
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Old May 12, 2009, 08:35 PM // 20:35   #50
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You don't say anything about the actual game. All you do is say what's on the screen and explicitly tell us every move the people make. Thanks, but that's useless - we can see what happens.
Actually his video is infinitely more useful than your post. You probably are not the target of this kind of video.

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You need to mention the state of the game - who's in the better position, who made good decisions, why they're splitting (it's called splitting, not a gank. It's only a gank if they're running all their offense at the bodyguard and lord). You need to say:
You should do it instead of telling other people to do it.

]HM[ Sabre Wolf is not simply a forum poster, he actually did something for the community rather than tell others what they should do. I think you'll get infinitely more respect if you do it and show the result, rather than come with your comments, as if ]HM[ Sabre Wolf was a bad commenter.
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Old May 13, 2009, 02:38 AM // 02:38   #51
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I am no professional... I'll save that for Chris Bermen, Mike Tirico and Al Michaels... but what I can do is be a member of this Guild Wars community and try to show a world of PvP to some who do not know what it is about with my skills as a non-linear editor and sports background... over 5,500 video views (on the mAT videos alone) tells me that people are enjoying it. And from the comments, some people are learning from it and some are even willing to try it for themselves. I am doing this by myself at 2:00 AM to get this to the community as quickly as possiable. I am very thankful that my work is recognized by ANET with Regina posting these mAT threads on the www.GuildWars.com site; and others for posting the video on their own on other various sites to help spread the content. I am doing the best I can and I will try to keep improving them. Some of what you have mentioned above will be mentioned in a post game portion of the next mAT video... I did plan one for this past mAT, but I just didn't have the time due to a trip I needed to go on...

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Old May 13, 2009, 05:24 AM // 05:24   #52
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There's a reason why this is in Riverside and not in Gladiator's Arena. This is not an in-depth view of tactics or such so this isn't aimed for the hardcore pvp'ers out there. Which brings me back to my first sentence.
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:15 AM // 07:15   #53
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For the next video for quality purposes, I will be hosting it on my own... I have created a Skydrive account which can hold up to 25 GB worth of data. This storage will be used only for these mAT Videos. The videos placed on here, will be available for fast downloading and fullscreen viewing! I am in hopes this will improve the quality along with full data management on my end.

For a sample, I have uploaded Part 1 of April's mAT GvG to the server (click here)... please give me feed back about the quality of the video! On my 5 meg highspeed, it took 30 seconds to download. To download, click on the film strip icon. (And no, I did not go back and correct the errors, so comment on the video quality only)

The next mAT Coverage will also feature a brand new Show Open and a Post Game Wrap Up!

Please note that due the holiday weekend (Labor Day) and extended content being added, the video(s) will most likely be released Monday Night (June 1st). Please look for the thread on this Guru Site and/or the link from the GuildWars.com site when it is released.

Thank you for all your input and appreciation!

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Old May 20, 2009, 07:21 AM // 07:21   #54
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For the next video for quality purposes, I will be hosting it on my own... I have created a Skydrive account which can hold up to 25 GB worth of data. This storage will be used only for these mAT Videos. The videos placed on here, will be available for fast downloading and fullscreen viewing! I am in hopes this will improve the quality along with full data management on my end.

For a sample, I have uploaded Part 1 of April's mAT GvG to the server (click here)... please give me feed back about the quality of the video! On my 5 meg highspeed, it took 30 seconds to download. To download, click on the film strip icon. (And no, I did not go back and correct the errors, so comment on the video quality only)

The next mAT Coverage will also feature a brand new Show Open and a Post Game Wrap Up!

Please note that due the holiday weekend (Labor Day) and extended content being added, the video(s) will most likely be released Monday Night (May 26th). Please look for the thread on this Guru Site and/or the link from the GuildWars.com site when it is released.

Thank you for all your input and appreciation!
So you're releasing the videos of the mAT before the actual mAT?

Awesome.
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:27 AM // 07:27   #55
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my mistake, I was told it was this Saturday... so it will be released June 1st

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I was told the mAT was this comming Saturday... wouldn't the next Saturday be in the month of June?
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Old May 20, 2009, 05:29 PM // 17:29   #57
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Thanks for the support.

My message above might have been lost or not seen, so again, (here is the link) for the uploaded Part 1 of the April mAT on the new Skydrive server. Click on the film strip to download. Please comment on if the quality is better/worse for you all. In this manner, the video will be viewable in full screen in the original quality of my editing program. I did not update the content errors, I am just looking for Video Quality. Again, on my 5 Meg Internet, it took me only 25-30 secs to download.
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Old May 21, 2009, 06:17 AM // 06:17   #58
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Lack of depth is a common thing to have to improve in newer commentaries - it's not hostile to point this out.

It is hostile to continue bickering.
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Old May 21, 2009, 07:22 AM // 07:22   #59
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]HM[ Sabre Wolf: Your last 40Mo video is of better quality than the one on youtube, I'd say it's at least 50% better. Any way could you release a 800x600 video (should be in the range of 100-150Mo)? If you have a video editing software, add a logo somewhere in the video to claim it yours.

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You don't say anything about the actual game. All you do is say what's on the screen and explicitly tell us every move the people make. Thanks, but that's useless - we can see what happens.
That's a nice idea, but I'm afraid it's just not true.

Professional commentators spent most of their time doing exactly what Sabre Wolf did: Relaying what is happening in the game, step for step. Take a soccer game, the commentators will call every single pass, attempt to score, save... It's relatively rare that they talk preemptively about tactics or strategy.
Why do they do this? It helps people follow a fast paced game, it lets you focus on smaller points (like what skill icons are going off or what is the flag time) without losing track of what is going on. Another large part of the reasoning is the average persons attention span. Because of his commentary I could follow the match pretty well whilst working, only tabbing to the match when it sounded like something interesting was happening.

He did a good job of introducing the match, teams, and the builds they were using. He explains some of the skill choices and the more important events of the fight.

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You need to mention the state of the game - who's in the better position, who made good decisions, why they're splitting (it's called splitting, not a gank. It's only a gank if they're running all their offense at the bodyguard and lord). You need to say:
That's only going to happen if you find someone who is both experienced and willing to put the time in, sadly that kind of player are pretty much extinct. As it is, he did a fine job of commentating.

As many have said; it's not aimed at people who know GvG well. To use soccer as an example again: A commentator doesn't direct his commentary at other competitive team players, rather at the general public watching the game.

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