Curse

Lux Aeterna · Jul 10, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25

So I'm trying to play ra, right, for the double weekend. I usually play it a bit and am good at pvp, but I've been annoyed by the huge amount of antimelee I get stacked with constantly:

-- Blindbot derv. This one comes first because I'm frustrated by it. For those who don't know, it's a build that can maintain blind on two melees from start to finish despite monks using condition removal on recharge. I hate it kill it kill it please nerf this now it's so so so cheap.

-- Necro maintaining faintheartedness, covered by defile defenes, for a whole round + Enfeeble.

-- Rits using blind was mingson + weapon of shadow to keep me blind as long as I attack them.

-- Eles maintaining blind on me with glyph of immolation + steam or blinding flash/ surge.

-- Mesmers maintaining empathy on me the whole round, I can attack through this but often me attacking through empathy will put the party under more pressure than anything else (this happened one round, nobody got a kill for 5 minutes, our party simply stopped taking damage when I stopped attacking)

The thing about this, is not just that most casters are able to shut down a melee 100%. It's that they can, at low cost, maintain multiple forms of shutdown on me for the whole round without a break.

I feel bad complaining about this because as soon as I'm not shut down I get a kill, ty custom assassin build -- Necro stops maintaining faint + covered weakness on me, I kill him in front of his monk just because I can.

I run antidote signet on warrior, it helps but I don't like it.

Anyone have advice and / or sympathy about this?

It's getting ridiculous, I'm literally blind for 5 minutes straight even when my monk attempts to remove it.

I'm scared that this won't ever be nerfed because it isn't a problem in gvg thanks to foul feast.

Tearz1993 · Jul 10, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31

If you're on a war, clarity rune on your armor + reduce blind on shield. Just pray that the monk has Spotless Mind for hexes.

Seraphim of Chaos · Jul 10, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

roll a ranger and dshot shit that's what I do

Ariena Najea · Jul 10, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I was in a team on my Mo/R build (with Dshot!), with a R/Rt running Throw Dirt and Blind Was Mingson, as well as Preservation. We repeatedly faced teams with 2-3 physicals, and obliterated them, despite the fact that we had only one decent damage dealer. Our streak ended at 7 versus 3 MB Eles and a Monk.

Honestly, if you're going for wins, you are better off not running a physical right now. There are tons of other options to deal damage in the current "RA meta". Unless your Monk has Draw and energy management, you can expect to be Blinded and Weakened often as a physical.

Bobby2 · Jul 10, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Since when do you play Assassin?

Lo The Fallen · Jul 10, 2009, 08:50 PM // 20:50

having a warrior as my main, i sympathize with you but theres really nothing you can do about it w/o compromising your bar.

i try to refrain from playing warrior in RA because it's a grab bag...and people like nothing more to stack you with hexes and conditions.

letting the other team mates run in first could help...that way they all spam stuff on him/her.

Just hope you get a sub-par monk so you can actually play. taking down mesmers, necros, and eles should be top priority IF there is NO monk.

but basically...if you want an easier time, go gank people in AB with your warrior and run something different in RA + TA.

Hope this helps, and the anti-melee let's up =P

Gift3d · Jul 10, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariena Najea

I was in a team on my Mo/R build (with Dshot!)

pretty sure that was me, its the only build i run in RA

but all my wins in RA have been teams without melee. clueless necros with 8 anti melee hexes and signet of midnight, monks with 4-5 stances, guild wars, etc.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jul 10, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Don't play melee

FoxBat · Jul 10, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Dwyana derv, possibly with featherfoot grace, or else mel derv. Gimmicky frontline > no frontline.

IronSheik · Jul 10, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Run anti caster

Ec]-[oMaN · Jul 10, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14

If there's tons of anti melee casters, just roll dmg casters instead easy wins.

Lux Aeterna · Jul 10, 2009, 09:17 PM // 21:17

So basically, don't play melee.

Poor game balance is when one thing always works completely unless you completely counter it all the time with something that can always counter it completely.

I don't like playing casters, I like playing melee, I capped some skills to make a deadly arts caster when I realized that nothing could possibly be more boring to me.

I used to play a battlemage in a DnD game, but thing was it was far more powerful than anything else and Guild Wars caster classes just don't compete, also back then my mage wore spiked red plate armor, just like GW eles can't.

Also I tried playing sin for JQ, found out it was the only class besides warrior I really liked, also it's fun and there are a lot of good builds for it plus right now I've got a 630~ damage spike that I can barely use ty blind meta.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jul 10, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

you could try plague touch. It'd fix blinding problem and it would help you remove other conditions too.

But if you keep running into anti melee, then just don't go melee simple as that.

Evil Eye · Jul 10, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Hammer warrior with interupts and you're good.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jul 10, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Eye

Hammer warrior with interupts and you're good.

If they hex him or blind him before he can get in attack range it won't do much good.

riceangel · Jul 10, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47

run CoF on war?

IronSheik · Jul 10, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceangel

run CoF on war?

Naked warr with lion mask radiant insig, yeah srs bsns.

rodzilla · Jul 10, 2009, 11:15 PM // 23:15

This might help:

1 Enraging Charge
2 Devasating Hammer
3 Crushing Blow
4 Heavy Blow
5 Lions Comfort
6 Rip enchantment
7 Plauge Touch
8 Rez Sig

Vs Air els blinding you use plauge touch and rip enchantments. This reduces healing and energy gain for els. Don't over use either.

Empaty let it run out first time. then time a KD on mesmer. you should be able to keep the mesmer KDed with practice. If they opt for VoR, you can attack but you can't use a skill. If the mesmer is low on health and puts empaty on you attack him anyway he should die before you most times. also, if lions comfort is charged you can get in a couple of attacks vs Empaty. then trigger Lions Comfort and reevalute then.

Rits. You have to rush them if they have time to set up shop it's a hard row to hoe. kill them before they set up all the way.

if you are having trouble with rangers. you can drop crushing blow and put in Wild Blow and it will remove stances. I know you lose all adrenaline. however, you can't hit a stanced ranger without it. most ranger stances have a long recharge. wild blow, engraging charge, Lions Comfort then Devasation hammer. I think u will be suprised at how fast he dies. Be watchful for conditional attacks. pass them back to the ranger right away.

The heavy degen Necros you have to keep KDed. Uses Lions Comfort as soon as it charges every time.

I've had a lot of success with this build. some teams I've been fortunate enough to be on has gotten 10 victories w/out a monk.

Enraging charge should charge up Lions Comfort on the first hit. Use lions Comfort to charge Devastating Hammer. this starts the KD chain and is easy to maintain using enraging charge and Lions comfort. you have to time your KDs so that they stay on the ground.

Also, at the begining of the match, scan through your team and the other team. You want to pick a favorable match up for each player. Everyone attacking the monk is not always the right answer. but the person that has the best chance to attack and kill the monks should do so. Then the other 3 should match up on the 3 opposing players in the most favorable way for your team.

Fire els are easy to kill with this build as you can pass conditions with plauge touch. make sure to remove enchantments during a KD and repeat until dead. Once charged you can KD any of them very often. Watch for guardian and remove it before a KD attack.

If you attack another melee class and you are being blinded by and el while attacking you can pass blind to the melee player you are attacking. preventing any damage from him/her.

Plauge touch comes in very handy as well as Rip enchantment. it takes some time to get good with this build.

But, In RA warriors are prolly the weakest profession without some type of healer healing.

Healing sig is -40 armor Lions Comfort disables your rez sig for x amount of secs.

Now if you get a bad team. you're pretty much screwed no matter what.

There are other warrior builds that work as well or better. Just pick one and keep trying. Hope this helps ya.

Braxton619 · Jul 10, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Yes I know I face the same problem. ArenaNet needs to nerf Empathy. Also use backfire on those casters(instant pwnage).

Grim Aragorn · Jul 11, 2009, 12:07 AM // 00:07

sight beyond sight has hello to you sir