Curse

moriz · Oct 08, 2009, 02:15 AM // 02:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohfqhi3TWP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1yHFKVBGCY

my first attempt at doing something like this. hopefully you find this informative.

Zodiac Meteor · Oct 08, 2009, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Very good, 5/5

Bob Slydell · Oct 08, 2009, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Really good stuff Moriz, thanks for posting! I subscribed a while ago.

Bobby2 · Oct 08, 2009, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Needs more flash, bling, and killer Bull's Strikes.

5/5

Ben-A-BoO · Oct 08, 2009, 06:49 AM // 06:49

I say well done!
First part is rather boring for a bit more experienced players since it mainly deals with map layout. However part two is interesting.

Now you only need to do Grenz Frontier too and we got all the AB maps covered (hehehe).

p.s. just curious: "How long did it take you to get this out there?"

Darth The Xx · Oct 08, 2009, 07:09 AM // 07:09

The only problem is I doubt the people on this forum need something like this

Need to start posting it around the AB outpost for PuGs to watch and learn how to lead properly, leading to higher quality AB games.

I know its a stretch but I'm an optimist

turbo234 · Oct 08, 2009, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by timebandit

Now you only need to do Grenz Frontier too and we got all the AB maps covered (hehehe).

actually a couple days ago i saw saltspray :O it didn't last too long. plus i won 10 of 11 matches so it was very fast zcoin farming for me

moriz · Oct 08, 2009, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by timebandit

I say well done!
First part is rather boring for a bit more experienced players since it mainly deals with map layout. However part two is interesting.

Now you only need to do Grenz Frontier too and we got all the AB maps covered (hehehe).

p.s. just curious: "How long did it take you to get this out there?"

you mean, how long did it take me to make this? well, i think about 2 hours. i have practically no experience commentating, so i had to do this in chunks and then piece it all together. then i ran into audio sync issues that took forever to fix.

the ruloes · Oct 08, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Good stuff. I think that the most common strategy the luxon side uses from the start on ancestral lands is that all teams go clockwise. NW team heads east, SW team heads north and east team heads down to the SE shrine then west. Whereas the kurzicks usually position themselves at all the gates, making all of the equipment shrines become contended right off the bat. It was interesting to see that there are other (perhaps more advantageous) ways to approach the start, for instance how the luxon fort team should go NE instead of SE, as common strategy dictates.

dorin · Oct 08, 2009, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Well done moriz

moriz · Oct 08, 2009, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by the ruloes

Good stuff. I think that the most common strategy the luxon side uses from the start on ancestral lands is that all teams go clockwise. NW team heads east, SW team heads north and east team heads down to the SE shrine then west. Whereas the kurzicks usually position themselves at all the gates, making all of the equipment shrines become contended right off the bat. It was interesting to see that there are other (perhaps more advantageous) ways to approach the start, for instance how the luxon fort team should go NE instead of SE, as common strategy dictates.

the common luxon opening move is "everybody run clockwise!" which means the eastern group goes to the SE. as i mentioned in the video, that's a bad idea because they'll almost certainly run into a five man (maybe even six man, depending on if the group picked up both npcs) mob, and be forced into a fight that they cannot win. a much better opening is "everybody run counterclockwise!" i don't know why they don't do this... maybe it's because "clockwise" is easier to type in team chat.

kurzicks opening with the western gate is almost always a bad idea. they'll be forced to run around the platform to go up the staircase at the back, and be forced to take hits all along the way. not to mention, the staircase is a very narrow chokepoint and a single nuker with a bodyblock on the stairs will kill them all.

Alleji · Oct 08, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Very nicely done, much better than text guides people have posted previously.

E Q U I N O X · Oct 08, 2009, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Good thing you did Ancestral Lands, it's the only map we get to play on other than Grenz. Unless it's ZQuest AB day....... but video was very well done. Now that people know tactics they should learn how to get a real build haha.

moriz · Oct 08, 2009, 05:31 PM // 17:31

and video compression at work: that entire video (both parts) comes in at only 27mb.

btw which map should i do next? i'm thinking either grenz/etnaran or frozen isle.

E Q U I N O X · Oct 08, 2009, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Grenz wouldn't be a bad idea imho, it's the 2nd most played on map and people honestly don't know what to do! Frozen Isle... idk GvG really is quite dead atm... at least for Americans.

Really just 27mb... that's pretty crazy...

dorin · Oct 09, 2009, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by moriz

and video compression at work: that entire video (both parts) comes in at only 27mb.

btw which map should i do next? i'm thinking either grenz/etnaran or frozen isle.

Lately just lands and grentz. Lands done. Grentz for the next. Unfortunately for playing the rest of them we need some event or zb quest

LE: It would be nice also to be sticky.

erk · Oct 09, 2009, 01:04 PM // 13:04

The videos are interesting, but they don't mention anything about capping the base, a crucial part for Luxons.

moriz · Oct 09, 2009, 01:14 PM // 13:14

taking the castle should only be done after the outside shrines are taken care of. otherwise, the cost and time needed to storm inside and take those two shrines are not worth the effort.

erk · Oct 09, 2009, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by moriz

taking the castle should only be done after the outside shrines are taken care of. otherwise, the cost and time needed to storm inside and take those two shrines are not worth the effort.

Totally disagree, they comprise part of the 4 closest shrines to the Luxon base requiring the least time wasted running. If the kurzicks are any good, or simply running around in a big clockwise mob as usual, then you are not going to get all the outside shrines capped first. The optimum strategy I have found it one group guard the bridge, one the base, and one the north/south equipment shrines. If you are on vent you can be more flexible eg. just leave on player guarding the bridge as a spotter, and the other 3 rush back when called.

moriz · Oct 09, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

if the kurzick group really is "any good", they won't allow you to take those shrines inside the fort. they'll either wipe you as you try to push in, when you are dealing with the wall npcs, or just lock the gates after you and leave you in there.

taking the fort is an end-game situation when the kurzicks have already been beaten. the fort requires significant investment of time and resources better spent elsewhere.