Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > Gladiator's Arena

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Oct 24, 2009, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #21
...is in denial
 
dr love's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hyperion
Guild: starcraft 2
Profession: P/Me
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default

auspicious + shatter hex
drain enchant

its the only way i could manage using B Light. it worked well against the hex teams, but now there's lots of frontline heavy builds.
dr love is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 05:34 PM // 17:34   #22
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Guild: Dyslexic Tendencies [SpAz]
Profession: W/
Default

If the opposing team spreads the damage between you and the other party members, there is no way you can survive it with Blight, it works decently against hex teams, but now those aren't so common, mostly the cripslash +blindbot +vor teams, or 2 r/a's or a/r, with SaO +pets, and sometimes Barbs necro.
Nerf Me Haha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24   #23
Lion's Arch Merchant
 
Short's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Guild: Protectors of Fate [GoF]
Profession: N/Me
Default

OP Class of the Day? Blindbot Dervish, shutdown the opposing melees amazingly well. And if the other team has one? It's whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
Short is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #24
Forge Runner
 
bungusmaximus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerf Me Haha View Post
If the opposing team spreads the damage between you and the other party members, there is no way you can survive it with Blight, it works decently against hex teams, but now those aren't so common, mostly the cripslash +blindbot +vor teams, or 2 r/a's or a/r, with SaO +pets, and sometimes Barbs necro.
damage spreading also blows up your average WoH monk amazingly fast
bungusmaximus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #25
Lion's Arch Merchant
 
Nirconus Otreum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: FDR
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
OP Class of the Day? Blindbot Dervish, shutdown the opposing melees amazingly well. And if the other team has one? It's whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
Nah... Pensive Guardian works really well against them.
Nirconus Otreum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24   #26
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: [CDEX]
Profession: R/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
OP Class of the Day? Blindbot Dervish, shutdown the opposing melees amazingly well. And if the other team has one? It's whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
rend touch says hi
Morgoth the dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #27
The Greatest
 
Arkantos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark View Post
rend touch says hi
Vital boon and mystic regeneration say sup.
Arkantos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00   #28
erk
Wilds Pathfinder
 
erk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Australia
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
OP Class of the Day? Blindbot Dervish, shutdown the opposing melees amazingly well. And if the other team has one? It's whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
As long as the bot that is shutdown is too stupid to call for a blind removal.
erk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 12:49 AM // 00:49   #29
Krytan Explorer
 
I Jonas I's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
Codex Arena is sooo fun!!!
I Jonas I is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 02:08 AM // 02:08   #30
Ascalonian Squire
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerf Me Haha View Post
Blessed Light monk? are you kidding? this skill is so crappy it makes me go QQ, have you actualy tried to monk with it? unless you can actualy show me a build with it which isn't crappy which, I, don't think is possible.
I tried loads of combintions and none of tem survived against the better teams, and I'm a decent monk.
What.

BLight is fine, as long as you're meeting the clauses it should not be killing your energy. 10e for a good heal, hex remove, and condi remove is fine.

Melee damage is negligible. Or should be, because you have EDA, remember? Who has >two< cover enchantments.

Hex removal in this sealed deck is scarce. Aside from BLight you have:

Shatter hex.

Kudos. So you're going to try to face hex overload builds with >Shatter Hex< as your removal?

Good luck with that. Don't spam Blight as a heal, carry EDA for damage mitigation, and blow up the 3 or 4x squishy hexways with your high melee damage. How do you see ANY alternative to Blight?
Sieg Sunblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #31
Forge Runner
 
DreamWind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Profession: E/Mo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Short View Post
OP Class of the Day? Blindbot Dervish, shutdown the opposing melees amazingly well. And if the other team has one? It's whoever Swift Javelins the other Blindbot first that wins.
This is mostly true today. I got bored fighting blindbot after blindbot. Another strong build is shattering assassin, but half the reason that is good is to help remove opposing ebon dust. Overall a pretty boring/annoying meta today.
DreamWind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 04:18 AM // 04:18   #32
Ascalonian Squire
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Default

The Assault Enchants sin is also strong because it gives you a way to shutdown the best non-physical damage atm, which is the SF ele. Run AE for fire eles and dervishes, run EDA for physical teams, if you face a mirror it's a race to rip EDA first and not have your ripped.

The only other thing I see working, and this is only with mediocre EDAs, is petspam with hexes. Which is fine until they all take Death Blossom damage and die. Or all get blinded. Etc, etc, etc.
Sieg Sunblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 05:40 AM // 05:40   #33
Krytan Explorer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Default

too much builds wars today, kinda like a rock paper scissors sorta game atm for monk builds. Take blessed or shatter hex and get rolled by melee, take healing light and stances and get rolled by hexes...

i used a d/a zealous vow dagger build and everytime i saw a d/p we would inevitably end up autoattacking each other and he would try to cover his enchants while i tried to rending touch his ebon. Matches dragged on for way too long. Also, i would like to say mind shock eles were pretty underrated today, really dangerous spikers.
awry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23   #34
Jungle Guide
 
Winstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
Default

Assault enchantments owned eda all day.
Winstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 09:39 AM // 09:39   #35
Ascalonian Squire
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winstar View Post
Assault enchantments owned eda all day.
Unless the dervish was good and blinded you before you could get your combo off. Or got a lucky guardian block then blinded you. Am I right?

PS: 7~8/10 at today having a >near perfect< EDA build. I know there's strip and flesh wound to deal with it, it still makes me a little mad.
Sieg Sunblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 09:56 AM // 09:56   #36
Krytan Explorer
 
icedwhitemocha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ancestral/Grenz
Guild: [CneX]
Profession: W/
Default

Everyone I know is 10/10 over EDA in the deck two days in a row. NOT fun.
icedwhitemocha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 10:41 AM // 10:41   #37
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: [CDEX]
Profession: R/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
Vital boon and mystic regeneration say sup.
new day, same blind shit, strip enchants and corrupt says hello
Morgoth the dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #38
Krytan Explorer
 
icedwhitemocha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ancestral/Grenz
Guild: [CneX]
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark View Post
new day, same blind shit, strip enchants and corrupt says hello
derv has ~3 covers and monk can provide more if they're coordinating on vent
icedwhitemocha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #39
Ascalonian Squire
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Default

FUN FACT! EDA will pop up, on average, in 1/3 of the Codexes!

Isn't Codex Arena SUPER FUN?

Seriously. EDA is, in my opinion, too powerful a skill in 4v4 arenas, esp those where non-melee damage is unreliable (eg, solitary hexes are all you have, or easily mitigable fire damage), or the counters to EDA are difficult to bring (Rend)

I might be biased, because my favourite classes in the game are easily para and warrior, but in my experience whenever EDA pops up, every successful build revolves around how to shut it down effectively, which often takes more effort than it should for one skill, albeit an elite skill.
Sieg Sunblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2009, 01:35 PM // 13:35   #40
Forge Runner
 
DreamWind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Profession: E/Mo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg Sunblade View Post
FUN FACT! EDA will pop up, on average, in 1/3 of the Codexes!
Hahahaha. Cool now we finally have our first case of a need to balance around Codex arena. Let me sit back and get my popcorn.
DreamWind is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:33 AM // 05:33.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("