Jan 13, 2010, 10:40 PM // 22:40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The Desert
Guild: Legions of Engalion [自由]
Profession: Mo/W
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No heros in Zaishen!!! Utter Redengine
So i load up Zaishen battle and throw some heros in the party and what do i find.... sorry, can;t let you in. So i am utterly redengined about this. Where else can i test out pvp builds or casually practice 4v4? Don;t say RA, cause sometimes i don;t want to play with a build until i have fully tested it.
So now how can i test a build in a PVP setting???
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not happy. bring back some form of doing pvp with heros. codex is fine, but i miss hero battles.
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Jan 13, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51
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#2
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: R/
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Yeah, that was annoying and pointless. I assumed it was the standard "it's a problem in PvP so we will remove them from PvP without thinking" update. Just kike they did when they removed hard mode from challenge mission outposts, or added DP to pets.
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Jan 13, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2009
Profession: W/E
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Training Arenas maybe?
Its like RA but with your heroes
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Jan 13, 2010, 11:05 PM // 23:05
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#4
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha
Guild: Death Bringers Union [DBU]
Profession: R/
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Ummm, they took heros out of pvp almost 4 months ago, and you have only just realised?!
My only suggestion would maybe try the skirmish option in your guild hall, but even then I think they are still barred.
@Fay Vert: yes, they did it without thinking... which is why they spent so much time getting builds from people then creating a bucketload of henchies in the Guild Halls and HA.... /sarcasm
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Jan 13, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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#5
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: みやき町
Profession: Mo/A
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Play RA, it's not that big of a deal if your new build sucks, no one really cares, and if even you, the creator of the build have no faith in your build, then it's just going to be a piece of crap in the end.
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Jan 13, 2010, 11:28 PM // 23:28
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#6
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mableton, Georgia
Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [ギルド]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKB48
Play RA, it's not that big of a deal if your new build sucks, no one really cares, and if even you, the creator of the build have no faith in your build, then it's just going to be a piece of crap in the end.
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Agree with this very much. It's not like RA is srs bsns. Go to American District- you'll find countless Warriors with Flare and countless Monks trying to smite with Bane Signet with a Flesh Golem as their elite. <_<
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Jan 14, 2010, 12:25 AM // 00:25
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#7
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind
@Fay Vert: yes, they did it without thinking... which is why they spent so much time getting builds from people then creating a bucketload of henchies in the Guild Halls and HA.... /sarcasm
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This is about Zaishen, not PvP. I meant they took it out of PvP (however well that was done) but didn't consider that Zaishen counted as PvP or even worse if they did, they didn't think to put all those wonderful new hench in that outpost.
They didn't think
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Jan 14, 2010, 12:36 AM // 00:36
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Profession: E/A
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zaishen can't really be considered pvp considering your not fighting other people just AI controlled enemies. They should allow heroes in zaishen combat/elite, however its already easy to do it with just the hench and a decent build.
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Jan 14, 2010, 01:30 AM // 01:30
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#9
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Guest
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The most eyebrow-raising issue here is that it took 4 months before anyone noticed.
But now that it's been brough to my attention:
Bring back heroes in zaiseh NAO!!!1! Teh only decent pvp left in dis game and gail gray and anet ruined it!! I expekt dis to be fixed in teh next "bi-monthly" updat!
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Jan 14, 2010, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#10
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha
Guild: Death Bringers Union [DBU]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fay Vert
This is about Zaishen, not PvP. I meant they took it out of PvP (however well that was done) but didn't consider that Zaishen counted as PvP or even worse if they did, they didn't think to put all those wonderful new hench in that outpost.
They didn't think
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there are henchies that you can use in the Zaishen outposts (always has been), and why wouldn't it be considered PvP? it is a part of the battle isle and the whole idea behind it is to prep you for PvP.
I think the thing here is that they can't selectively remove the heroes from PvP, it is a kinda all or nothing deal
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Jan 14, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01
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#11
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard
The most eyebrow-raising issue here is that it took 4 months before anyone noticed.
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Actually I noticed the day of the update but I didn't think anyone cared so much about Zaishen Arenas...
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Jan 14, 2010, 03:00 AM // 03:00
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#12
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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It's more that zquest balth farming completely outclasses zarena balth farming. Otherwise more would've noticed by now.
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Jan 14, 2010, 03:44 AM // 03:44
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sen'jin Village
Guild: The Infamous Cake Bandits [cake]
Profession: Mo/W
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Whats the zaishen elite?
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Jan 14, 2010, 04:38 AM // 04:38
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#14
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: US
Guild: Diversionary Tactics [DT]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
Agree with this very much. It's not like RA is srs bsns. Go to American District- you'll find countless Warriors with Flare and countless Monks trying to smite with Bane Signet with a Flesh Golem as their elite. <_<
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Actually, districts are merged now (supposedly this fixed syncing... only it really didn't stop it too well). This leads to you always having to play with people running hilariously awful builds regardless of which district you enter from. I usually preferred AD anyway, but it also means that I get to play on Euro servers almost all the time when I enter any time before sunset. Thanks ANet. 400ms ping was obviously the one thing I was truly missing before.
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Jan 14, 2010, 05:17 AM // 05:17
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#15
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha
Guild: Death Bringers Union [DBU]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth The Xx
Whats the zaishen elite?
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the second of the Zaishen missions on the Battle Isle
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Jan 14, 2010, 08:01 AM // 08:01
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#16
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2007
Guild: Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]
Profession: Mo/A
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Stop doing zaishen.
Easy solution.
Play pvp instead.
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Jan 14, 2010, 09:39 AM // 09:39
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#17
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: vD
Profession: Mo/
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hey, its free 5 k b-faction a day!!!
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Jan 14, 2010, 09:52 AM // 09:52
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#18
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
It's more that zquest balth farming completely outclasses zarena balth farming. Otherwise more would've noticed by now.
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zarena was afkable without hurting teamates thou, just add 2x E/Rt with spirit light and sf and one E/R with frozen soil and sf and you can just afk illusiorary weapon team.
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Jan 14, 2010, 03:06 PM // 15:06
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2007
Guild: Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]
Profession: Mo/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by urania
hey, its free 5 k b-faction a day!!!
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Well yeah, ~30-40 euro for 30 minutes a day every 210 days isn't too bad?
Owait, having a real job makes a ton more of money.
But I know you were obviously joking, some people might not be joking when they say so though.
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Jan 14, 2010, 04:51 PM // 16:51
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#20
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Silence and Motion
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Buffalo NY
Guild: New Horizon [NH]
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As has been mentioned, there are other forgiving formats in which to test builds.
Closed.
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