Curse

Elu Arina · Mar 14, 2010, 10:23 AM // 10:23

I stopped playing GW about 7 months ago and decided to come back and revisit the game recently. I had previously GvG'd until my guild lost too many members to do it regularly. After that, I had spent time in HA and earned a bit of fame until I lost my regular team there as well.

Now I come back to the game and find 2 PvP formats have been removed and replaced with one that appears to already be dead. RA is still fairly active, but... it's RA. AB was always just for lols and FF. HA rank discrimination continues to get worse (how many r9+++ are there really? Shouldn't they all know each other by now?). GvG apparently still has activity at the upper tiers, but I'm curious as to how it stands at the lower the tiers, the up-and-coming guilds if you will. Are there guilds like that anymore?

I guess what I'm trying to get at is this: are there inroads to PvP in GW anymore or has the influx of PvPers effectively stopped?

Xslash · Mar 14, 2010, 10:37 AM // 10:37

the influx of PvPers has effectively stopped.

*lemming* · Mar 14, 2010, 12:08 PM // 12:08

The American GvG population is basically in a permanent state of decline now. There's not much of an opportunity for guilds to come up anymore - ladder is inactive and American ATs tend to offer poor competition for mid-range guilds attempting to improve.

Europe still has guilds beginning to gvg and breaking through at a reasonable rate, but I'm not an expert in what goes on over there.

Still Number One · Mar 14, 2010, 07:35 PM // 19:35

American GvG is pretty much dead. There are pretty much 5 or 6 American guilds left who could perform well in mATs. I highly doubt any new faces will be entering that upper echelon in American GvG anytime soon, if ever so if you want to make an impact, you are probably out of luck.

Like Lemming said however, the Euro GvG scene still looks fairly alive so if you are Euro you are in luck, if not, welcome to the sidelines. I've made sure the bench is warm for all of us.

I Jonas I · Mar 15, 2010, 03:50 AM // 03:50

It's pretty hard to work your way up in the game.

But I will say that this game is all about connections. As long as you're not terrible, if you make good connections you will go far in the game.

Killed u man · Mar 15, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31

The above is mostly true, though I would like to add something:

The euro scene is alive, but it definatly doesn't have alot of influx of new people. It's always reforms of reforms.

The problem you have now is the influx of PvE'ers stopped a long time ago (several years), and you simply can't recruit anyone anymore. So you pretty much got a top 10 of guilds (+- 80-100 people who keep causing drama within their guilds and reforming with other members of those 100 people-elite) farming the other +- 40-50 guilds that are left playing.

So getting into euro GvG definatly still is possible, especially so if you're good enough, but if you're thinking about forming up your own guild (my initial plan) it simply isn't going to work because everyone left the game.

Look at it this way:

When the game was alive, you had Evil, WM etc farming the format. Then when they left, guilds such as vD and rawr could start winning. (As competition slowly dies, lesser and lesser competent guilds can win) When they finally left, guilds such as KMD and sup could take the upper hand and pretty much dominate the scene.
And now with KMD and sup (core) gone, the playing field is wide open for the guilds who couldn't break gold 2-5 years ago.

So you can definatly still join GvG and hopefully win a gold cape. Though don't expect it have the same prestige as it did 4-5 years ago, and don't expect it to go fast.

Getting 8 active members online to GvG is the hardest challenge nowadays, as opposed to actually playing the game.

GL, though!

Terrible Surgeon · Mar 16, 2010, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Thanks for summing up the state of pvp in GW. You are asking a question that you already knew the answer to, kinda figures though. PvP was officially killed in my mind when Anet removed TA and HB. The two basic arenas that taught players to use builds, team work, and tactics. HA is VERY discriminate and so low rank=get ganked with other low rank team members. RA is noob city and you see a lot of sync teams having their way with it still after the supposed sync "fix." So yeah unless you know someone that can hook you up then you're screwed and going to have to grind RA for the rest of your GW LIFE!!!!

chaos warrior zane · Mar 18, 2010, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

Thanks for summing up the state of pvp in GW. You are asking a question that you already knew the answer to, kinda figures though. PvP was officially killed in my mind when Anet removed TA and HB. The two basic arenas that taught players to use builds, team work, and tactics. HA is VERY discriminate and so low rank=get ganked with other low rank team members. RA is noob city and you see a lot of sync teams having their way with it still after the supposed sync "fix." So yeah unless you know someone that can hook you up then you're screwed and going to have to grind RA for the rest of your GW LIFE!!!!

Simple solution? Join a sync guild yourself or even create one. Obviously their are many mixed opinions on syncing, But if your taking the time to complain about it that much it means that you RA more than most other things. Meaning you should be used to the sync teams, and make your own ^^

Darth The Xx · Mar 18, 2010, 09:15 AM // 09:15

AB is not what it once was, with the HA/GvG meta turning to utter crap a few months ago and TA being removed, a lot of good players have become regulars. There are A LOT of ex-HA/GvG types who do this now, at times you get 24 people in one game like this and it can get quite intense (almost as good as GvG used to be

).