Curse

Master Ketsu · Aug 19, 2010, 07:23 AM // 07:23

Well it's pretty obvious at this point codex is a fail arena. Go in at any given time and unless it's ZQ day you will usually see a whole lot of nothing. People with high titles sync. Fail. Etc. Here are a few of my own to get things started.

Idea#1 at the very least: I feel at an absolute minimum change Anet should bring back hero battles. Hero battles were bad, but at least SOME people liked them and there was a small HB community that enjoyed it. Codex has almost zero community minus the sake of a few people who set up game-dates.

Idea#2: Remove codex, add in permanent costume brawl. This is what a lot of players wanted Codex to be anyways. The reality is casual PvP is popular. People like not having to wait 30 minutes to form a group.

Idea#3: Make codex a Hero codex arena. Basically 1v1 with 3 heroes each in a 4v4 team arena style with codex skills. Lots of people originally wanted HB to be a 4v4 elimination style anyways. The existence of the codex should significantly cut down on the R/P cheese builds.

urania · Aug 19, 2010, 08:04 AM // 08:04

how about...bring back TA, but keep the "codex rules".

Master Ketsu · Aug 19, 2010, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by urania

how about...bring back TA, but keep the "codex rules".

But...isn't that what codex is?

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 19, 2010, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Maybe he/she is referring to the rules other than the skill restrictions. So no using elites of your secondary professions, etc.

Also, Anet said HB isn't coming back, so don't get your hopes up.

Missing HB · Aug 19, 2010, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Also, Anet said HB isn't coming back, so don't get your hopes up.

They also said that a new HA map would come , that updates would be bi-monthly, and many other things that didn't come so ..

However , i completly agree with those ideas , especially for the reason mentionned in idea #2 : People don't like waiting 30mn ( sometimes even hours) to play pvp and especially when any lose/dc leads to disband

urania · Aug 20, 2010, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Maybe he/she is referring to the rules other than the skill restrictions. So no using elites of your secondary professions, etc.

Also, Anet said HB isn't coming back, so don't get your hopes up.

yes, im refering to the three honor rules and the ban of certain skills like vor.

Sirius Bsns · Aug 20, 2010, 08:25 AM // 08:25

If skills were more synergetic, I'd maybe consider the arena. They'd have to be somewhat similar to the current meta, but far more controlled [excluding the topmost OPed skills] for me to even bat an eye at CA. Also, Random Entry would be awesome as well.

Master Ketsu · Aug 20, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by urania

yes, im refering to the three honor rules and the ban of certain skills like vor.

Oh, well that would be a good idea too.

The only problem is it would still have to be unlinked from RA and thus may still not get many people.

One of the main reasons TA was able to always stay alive by a thread was because of RA feeding into TA meant that there would always be some teams to face even if no one else was in TA.

In codex, you get the "no opposing party" error if there is no one else. This is probably one of the biggest reasons codex died - if no one is there, then you play against no one or the same team over and over again.

JONO51 · Aug 20, 2010, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Bring back TA and HB if only because some played them. Delete codex & its title and blame it on the new servers. People will understand.

*lemming* · Aug 20, 2010, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Any fix for codex starts with resetting the title.

Lanier · Aug 21, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

randomize teams. Im sure the hard core and semi-hard core PvPers will still never play it but randomizing teams will be good for attracting casual players.

Elnino · Aug 21, 2010, 01:36 AM // 01:36

People actually played HB and TA yet Anet deleted them both. No one plays CA and therefore, it doesn't warrant a fix. Leave it to rot or remove it. If it gets more attention than HB and TA, I will be mad.

Lanier · Aug 21, 2010, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Elnino

People actually played HB and TA yet Anet deleted them both. No one plays CA and therefore, it doesn't warrant a fix. Leave it to rot or remove it. If it gets more attention than HB and TA, I will be mad.

HB was stupid imo though i would be all for reinstituting TA if it would get the hard core PvPers out of RA. However, you can't say that CA doesn't warrent a fix b/c no one plays it since a good fix would cause people to play it.

Elnino · Aug 21, 2010, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by Lanier

HB was stupid imo

CA was stupid imo (emphasis on the 'imo'). Your opinion is your opinion. Mine is mine and the HB community loved HB. If you think its stupid, fine, but remember that there are people who enjoyed it and were betrayed by Anet

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However, you can't say that CA doesn't warrent a fix b/c no one plays it since a good fix would cause people to play it.

That exact philosophy can be applied to HB and TA. A good fix would cause more people to play it. Yet it wasn't fixed (even tho some people still played it). Why should CA get more attention than HB and TA???? I say good riddance to CA!

Vallen · Aug 21, 2010, 10:39 AM // 10:39

All of your 3 ideas sound 10x better than what we have atm. /signed to all 3

But I just cant see why they removed TA and HB for this huge piece of shit that is CA.

Remove CA, bring back TA and HB exactly the same as they were. I miss the days of endless balth faction from HB ZC

JONO51 · Aug 21, 2010, 11:18 AM // 11:18

That reminds me, delete the HB zq when it comes back.

Elnino · Aug 21, 2010, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by JONO51

That reminds me, delete the HB zq when it comes back.

Remove/lower the Faction from the reward and lower the amount of zcoins. That would be better. Maybe give 1 point towards commander title?

Lanier · Aug 21, 2010, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Elnino

That exact philosophy can be applied to HB and TA. A good fix would cause more people to play it. Yet it wasn't fixed (even tho some people still played it). Why should CA get more attention than HB and TA???? I say good riddance to CA!

Im all for reinstituting TA so that the hard core pvpers can leave RA for the casual pvpers.

2 wrongs dont make a right. You already say that complete removal of the HB and TA arenas was a bad idea, but you are advocating for removal of CA? I wasn't for the removal of HB and TA, in fact my opinion about TA was neutral since i didnt play it. As for HB, I thought i was boring but i wasn't for removal. However, I am all for CA getting more attention than either of the two removed formats. It has a lot of potential to be a really fun arena for the casual PvPer.

Master Ketsu · Aug 23, 2010, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by Lanier

Im all for reinstituting TA so that the hard core pvpers can leave RA for the casual pvpers.

I hope you aren't talking about the sync Guilds. [zulu] in particular was an exclusive RA syncing guild even when TA was around.

Fluffy Kittens · Aug 23, 2010, 03:27 PM // 15:27

!signed for idea 1
Thats exactly what Anet should do to make this game more interesting for more players... but problem is they don't want to admit that codex is fail arena.
Also people should have chance to finish their commander titles... I worked 2 years on my r9 commander and now I don't have a chance to finish it... big joke from Anet really...