Curse

Maver1ck87 · Feb 02, 2011, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Yo, quick question... for spamming skills on meta blood nec bars.... is it best to use...

a)
40/40 Blood set

b)
10% HSR, +33% bleeding, +5AR spear and 20/20 offhand

????? anyone bored enough to do the maths as to which puts out more DPS?

basically, is the amount that you spam sufficiently limited by energy to not require the extra 10% HSR given by the blood wand, therefore meaning the +33% bleeding duration is superior (assuming you know how to NOT eat ranger rupts)

Im sure its a minor pretty insignificant difference however... im curious!

xhappy feetx · Feb 02, 2011, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Depends which skills and situation you are in, in 8v8 play it is better to use the barbed martial weapon to spread more bleeding, in split situation you want to use your 40/40 for life siphon so you can get it up on as many people as possible, and you always want to use 40/40 on oppressive gaze.

Killed u man · Feb 02, 2011, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by xhappy feetx

Depends which skills and situation you are in, in 8v8 play it is better to use the barbed martial weapon to spread more bleeding, in split situation you want to use your 40/40 for life siphon so you can get it up on as many people as possible, and you always want to use 40/40 on oppressive gaze.

It works both ways tough:

The longer your bleeding, the more chance it'll get RC'd off, if not instant.

It's pretty much barbed signet vs RC, is what this arguement is about. If you can keep RC down, the 33% bleeding will definatly increase the pressure post barbed nerf (where you can only keep it on 3-4 people, you can now keep it on 5-6), but if you can't you're only feeding RC power heals.

RC heals for 66, meaning that if your bleeding for removed before 11 seconds, you've essentially "healed" that person for 66-(6*seconds of bleeding).

Now, concidering that you need ATLEAST 11 seconds of duration for your bleeding to outdamage RC, chances are reasonably high bleeding will get removed before every bleeding you cause would have run full duration.

So increasing the duration on that bleeding can go both ways:

It gives the enemy RC a longer time to RC, and to recuperate some of the damage done, yet if he doesn't, you've gained an extra ~30 damage.

I Jonas I · Feb 02, 2011, 05:37 PM // 17:37

For 8v8: You want to 40/40 Oppressive Gaze and Strip enchantment because of their long recharges. You want to increase the bleeding duration on Dark Pact and Life Siphon to spread degen on everyone, so use the +bleeding martial weapon and the 20/20 focus. Obviously use 40/40 soul reaping for Angorodon's Gaze

For split: You want to 40/40 everything so you can pump out more shit.

The Baphomet · Feb 02, 2011, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maver1ck87

Yo, quick question... for spamming skills on meta blood nec bars.... is it best to use...

a)
40/40 Blood set

b)
10% HSR, +33% bleeding, +5AR spear and 20/20 offhand

????? anyone bored enough to do the maths as to which puts out more DPS?

basically, is the amount that you spam sufficiently limited by energy to not require the extra 10% HSR given by the blood wand, therefore meaning the +33% bleeding duration is superior (assuming you know how to NOT eat ranger rupts)

Im sure its a minor pretty insignificant difference however... im curious!

press f1
oh I'm not in my barbed set so I won't lengthen bleeding on myself *use sig*
press f2 lol if I use a skill in this barbed set I get longer bleeding woopie *cast skill*
press f1 barb sig doesn't recharge for several seconds so I can spam in my 40/40 yayyy *life siphon*

rinse and repeat

blood necro is hard

I Angra I · Feb 03, 2011, 03:44 AM // 03:44

It used to be a lot more complicated with masochism and blood renewal, but now just run 40/40 blood for important skills like opp gaze and strip enchant or when you think you're going to be interrupted, 40/40 soul reaping for angorodon's, and just run a barbed spear in your shield set to cast everything else when you aren't going to be interrupted (since you should be in your shield set a lot anyway).

Also if you don't have any secondary skills and aren't speccing into anything but blood and SR, go N/W and run 10 tactics and bring tactics shields (or 9 if you have req8 tactics shields).