Curse

Infectious · Jun 25, 2011, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Now is it time for Anet to own up to the fact they RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up dervs and bring them back into line?

Hyozanryu Sanada · Jun 25, 2011, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Holy **** fervered dreams + 3 dervs is so freaking OP.

Pugs Not Drugs · Jun 25, 2011, 11:41 PM // 23:41

dont bother, i started the exact same thread, and it was closed a day later.

but yeah, frag with dervs is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing ridiculous. GW2 better be the best damn game ive ever played, considering how they left GW to rot because of it.

Elnino · Jun 26, 2011, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Is [Boo] the first joke guild to win the MaT? Or was [uni]'s win a joke aswell?
Good job Anet, your crap lets guilds go from bronze trim to gold.

Reverend Dr · Jun 26, 2011, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Elnino

Is [Boo] the first joke guild to win the MaT?

Mistral Edge

Gabriel of Ravn · Jun 26, 2011, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Yeahhhhhh something needs to be done with dervs I don't GvG but I watch the matches alot and yeah they just need a nerf.

Ximvotn · Jun 26, 2011, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by Pugs Not Drugs

dont bother, i started the exact same thread, and it was closed a day later.

but yeah, frag with dervs is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing ridiculous. GW2 better be the best damn game ive ever played, considering how they left GW to rot because of it.

The same thread can be found here as well. There isn't enough people balancing the game that have high-end PvP experience or any for that matter.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/j...t10485994.html

Elnino · Jun 26, 2011, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Mistral Edge

At least they had a few silvers and got to the finals once before winning their gold. Boo (and uni) on the other hand....

Jeydra · Jun 26, 2011, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Be fair - triple Derv with Fevered Dreams Mesmers didn't exist last mAT, and we had people like Happy Feet declare that they've tested Dervs post-nerf and they're fine, etc etc etc.

And lol @ people who never win mATs complaining about joke guilds winning mATs. Conveniently forgetting about mATs like the one where having bodyguard up while the other team doesn't = instant win, too. Short term memory is good.

makosi · Jun 26, 2011, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Elnino

At least they had a few silvers and got to the finals once before winning their gold. Boo (and uni) on the other hand....

I enjoyed watching Mistral Edge back in the day. They used lame thumpers with barbs + eoe at a time when GvG was probably at its stalest. It was refreshing.

This Fevered Dreams + dervish stuff is way too much though. I'm surprised they didn't use one Grenth for disease.

Coast · Jun 26, 2011, 11:59 AM // 11:59

devs are the issue, not fevered
aob builds faster adrealine so ye

Missing HB · Jun 26, 2011, 04:15 PM // 16:15

There are just too many problems in GvG, although the mode is very fun

- AT and MaT are way too long... every normal tournament is 3 hours , in which you face the same guild usually , and MaT was 4 hours if no playoffs seriously....even tennis fights aren't lasting that long..

- The meta is not fun at all to fight , especially when you have 7 rounds against the exact same build.. Furthermore , it leads to joke fights , such as finals , and usually ,except for a few cases , build matters more than players... Other consequence is , like we had today , everyone is running mat winner build , which leads to incredibly passionating fights....

- Boxes were a good idea , but , you don't earn any when win on lord damage , nor when less than 5min ... those cases represent 90% of GvG fights , what's the point...

Besides , flux wasn't generally a good idea this month.. Last one it almost didn't do anything , and this time ,it made several won fights lost because of it ... Not really fair in my opinion...

But , like some people said , i hope that they will know what to nerf , and not do usual stuff , like i believe, which would be nerfing fevered dreams....

Oo Dany Oo · Jun 26, 2011, 05:11 PM // 17:11

The real problem with FD is that dervs can spam condition AoE without hits nothing.
So...FD on prot...prot cast Guardian...AoT+Pious Fury = Criple+Bleeding+Daze.

urania · Jun 26, 2011, 05:17 PM // 17:17

at least it wasnt a full hexover with necs and mesmers like a few months ago by some other guild rolling the derv 'balanced' in 7 mins!

Boo seems to be only partially following its TA tradition!

Infectious · Jun 26, 2011, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by makosi

This Fevered Dreams + dervish stuff is way too much though. I'm surprised they didn't use one Grenth for disease.

Re-applying the same condition has the same effect as adding another one.
Balths pump out conditions faster than grenths.

Sk8tborderx · Jun 26, 2011, 09:07 PM // 21:07

FD shouldn't apply Daze at all, just revert it to how the skill was before it got hit with a random dartboard buff. Dervishes are a bigger problem, that part is true, but to claim FD is fine is asinine.

Infectious · Jun 26, 2011, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

FD shouldn't apply Daze at all, just revert it to how the skill was before it got hit with a random dartboard buff. Dervishes are a bigger problem, that part is true, but to claim FD is fine is asinine.

FD is fine as it is.
Its the fact that dervs can churn out conditions like a motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOer which tips it into the broken category.

Sk8tborderx · Jun 26, 2011, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Conditions are very easy to apply anyway, sure Dervishes make it more retarded, but you could easily swap out the Dervs for 2 sword Warriors and a second Ranger. The build wouldn't be as strong as with current Dervishes, but FD would still be absolutely retarded.

FD was perfectly fine before it got buffed to add Daze, it is now too strong (yay powercreep), just change it back to exactly how it was before dartboard buff. I can't believe how much this community has fallen when they consider the current FD fine.

Infectious · Jun 26, 2011, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

Conditions are very easy to apply anyway, sure Dervishes make it more retarded, but you could easily swap out the Dervs for 2 sword Warriors and a second Ranger. The build wouldn't be as strong as with current Dervishes, but FD would still be absolutely retarded.

FD was perfectly fine before it got buffed to add Daze, it is now too strong (yay powercreep), just change it back to exactly how it was before dartboard buff. I can't believe how much this community has fallen when they consider the current FD fine.

I would give you FD as being a little over the top at most.
The daze is a moot point, the bigger problem is the hum sig, frag, and derv train that comes after the FD.
Would be almost worth putting it in the dom line to stop packing FD frag and hum sig on the same bar.
Don't forget about the flipside of the power creep, which is monks adapting and becoming harder to pressure out.

Sk8tborderx · Jun 26, 2011, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Daze isn't a moot point though really, at least not as long as it is ran with Frustration. I also don't see Frustration as the problem, the skill really isn't all that powerful without daze, OR sacrificing damage for interrupts.

Switching the skill to the Dom line would kill the skill more then just removing the Daze IMO.